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**Author:** [@system](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/system)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [August 2, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/welcome-to-the-progression-project-forum/7 "2022-08-02T23:10:21Z")
The Progression Project Forum is for the foil-brained. A place where foil surfers, downwinders, wingers and the curious can discuss all things foiling with sub-themes of the learning process and flow. --- ## [Board repair - epoxy only or cloth required?](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/board-repair-epoxy-only-or-cloth-required/18096)
**Author:** [@rutsnext](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/rutsnext)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/board-repair-epoxy-only-or-cloth-required/18096 "2026-09-24T21:38:48Z")
I started to remove the material around an impact crack that I thought was going to reveal the full carbon layer was broken and would require new cloth. But after removing the raised pieces in a small area (~1 sq cm) it… --- ## [Back to Tuttle – Back to Performance](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/back-to-tuttle-back-to-performance/14284)
**Author:** [@Beasho](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Beasho)\ **Replies:** 305\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/back-to-tuttle-back-to-performance/14284 "2026-09-24T21:12:30Z")
There’s been increasing discussion about the performance gains of a Tuttle connection vs. a track plate system for foiling. In the beginning, 10 seasons ago, all there was were Tuttle Boxes compatible with GoFoil, then … --- ## [Looking for big Unifoil wind to Dockstart](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/looking-for-big-unifoil-wind-to-dockstart/18091)
**Author:** [@viento](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/viento)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/looking-for-big-unifoil-wind-to-dockstart/18091 "2026-09-24T20:51:20Z")
Looking to buy a 200 or bigger Unifoil wing to learn dock starting, pm me if you have one to sell. Also looking to build an Axis setup and could use a short aluminum mast, short or ultrashort fuse, and pump stab. Chee… --- ## [Trash-Bags (Parawing Lounge)](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/trash-bags-parawing-lounge/7352)
**Author:** [@Zarb](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Zarb)\ **Replies:** 1228\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/trash-bags-parawing-lounge/7352 "2026-09-24T20:35:02Z")
Seems like a bunch of new competitors throwing their hats into the Trash-Bag arena. I was hoping to keep a confirmed/rumor/sightings list going! So far we have: Five-O: V1 available, V2 apparently coming out soon. Poc… --- ## [Cedrus Evolution Surf 80 Mast $750](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/cedrus-evolution-surf-80-mast-750/18095)
**Author:** [@holoholo](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/holoholo)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/cedrus-evolution-surf-80-mast-750/18095 "2026-09-24T20:23:10Z")
Cedrus Evolution Surf 80 Mast $750 Clean, very good condition Located Maui, split shipping to USA I own a Code and KT adaptor, used condition add +$50 ea. or order what you need from Cedrus- they carry nearly every b… --- ## [Maui travel beta](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/maui-travel-beta/12711)
**Author:** [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/maui-travel-beta/12711 "2026-09-24T20:21:24Z")
Im thinking of going to Maui to wing / parawing in late March / early April. Recognize this is early for the full tradewinds but it’s when I have the time to get there. I’ve looked at historical wind info, but would ap… --- ## [WTB unifoil evolution 135](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/wtb-unifoil-evolution-135/18093)
**Author:** [@wdrake](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/wdrake)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/wtb-unifoil-evolution-135/18093 "2026-09-24T19:47:25Z")
Looking for a used unifoil evolution 135. --- ## [Stance width, CG, and trim for pumping](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/stance-width-cg-and-trim-for-pumping/18086)
**Author:** [@Tuber1der](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Tuber1der)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/stance-width-cg-and-trim-for-pumping/18086 "2026-09-24T19:26:15Z")
Two surf foilers can have exact same CG perfectly positioned over the foil for optimal trim - one has a wide stance with rear foot decidedly behind the mast, the other has a narrow stance with rear foot directly on top o… --- ## [An exhaustive review of Hydrocraft Helix 1100](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/an-exhaustive-review-of-hydrocraft-helix-1100/18050)
**Author:** [@cloudland](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/cloudland)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/an-exhaustive-review-of-hydrocraft-helix-1100/18050 "2026-09-24T17:44:35Z")
Much has been said already about the smaller Helix sizes, and for good reason. I’ll definitely spend some time glazing them in this post but will try to mostly focus on the 1100. Reviewer: I prioritize riding waves in … --- ## [For Sale -\> Armstrong A+ System Mast 72cm](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/for-sale-armstrong-a-system-mast-72cm/18068)
**Author:** [@BajaWoody](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/BajaWoody)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/for-sale-armstrong-a-system-mast-72cm/18068 "2026-09-24T17:38:39Z")
Like new Armstrong +Mast 72cm with cover great condition, used literally 2 times (I’m only saying this because I don’t want to say never, even though I don’t think I ever used it as I bought the A+ 85cm at the same t… --- ## [How are the smaller foil companies fairing? Code, FlightLab,](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-are-the-smaller-foil-companies-fairing-code-flightlab/17224)
**Author:** [@FoilyMcLipshitz](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilyMcLipshitz)\ **Replies:** 56\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-are-the-smaller-foil-companies-fairing-code-flightlab/17224 "2026-09-24T17:26:29Z")
I love that theses guys exist but worry about longevity of business going up against the big dogs. Where will Hydrocraft be in a year or two. Lots of quick to market innovation happening but at what cost? Parawing compa… --- ## [AWSI 2026 Discussion Thread](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/awsi-2026-discussion-thread/17814)
**Author:** [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\ **Replies:** 106\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/awsi-2026-discussion-thread/17814 "2026-09-24T17:21:12Z")
Nobody else made this yet right? Code has boards and hand wings now. I’m very excited to see what FD announces to compete with Riift. Ozone PRv2 X, a lightweight version for the bigger sizes that packs down to the size … --- ## [Room 101 suggestions](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/room-101-suggestions/17196)
**Author:** [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Replies:** 123\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/room-101-suggestions/17196 "2026-09-24T17:18:31Z")
I’ll start: pump foiling fully dressed for views promo orange drone videos --- ## [Looking for a North Sonar SF 830 & 680](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/looking-for-a-north-sonar-sf-830-680/18090)
**Author:** [@Toddalbinson](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Toddalbinson)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/looking-for-a-north-sonar-sf-830-680/18090 "2026-09-24T16:55:43Z")
Hit me up if you have one of these wings and want to sell it --- ## [Need to sell one of my last sups to make space for more foils](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/need-to-sell-one-of-my-last-sups-to-make-space-for-more-foils/18088)
**Author:** [@Ieragemachine](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ieragemachine)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/need-to-sell-one-of-my-last-sups-to-make-space-for-more-foils/18088 "2026-09-24T16:14:05Z")
Any advice on where to sell a race sup online? Or anywhere? I can’t be the only one who has slowly sold off all their sups to make space for foil gear. I posted my last race board on Craigslist, twice, but got no offers.… --- ## [Downwind safety](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/downwind-safety/1640)
**Author:** [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Replies:** 197\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/downwind-safety/1640 "2026-09-24T14:56:53Z")
General DW safety thread. Edit: this article covers the full range of options, I would imagine for most beginners an Apple Watch with cellular is sufficient and probably where I’ll start, but for big adventures like the… --- ## [Selling Appletree Downwind Prone (ML v1) 57L- $950](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/selling-appletree-downwind-prone-ml-v1-57l-950/13655)
**Author:** [@Greatlakesfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Greatlakesfoil)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/selling-appletree-downwind-prone-ml-v1-57l-950/13655 "2026-09-24T13:53:01Z")
Selling appletree skipper midlength v1 (downwind prone) 57L foil board. Good condition. No cracks or nicks, only some pressure indents which are typical of appletree. Used for wing, parawing, and foil drive. Located in T… --- ## [Parawing VMG & Upwind/Downwind ratio - Share your findings!](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/parawing-vmg-upwind-downwind-ratio-share-your-findings/17724)
**Author:** [@foilstate](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilstate)\ **Replies:** 90\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/parawing-vmg-upwind-downwind-ratio-share-your-findings/17724 "2026-09-24T13:39:09Z")
Hello everyone! I have been loving the parawing for upwind-downwind in bays and open ocean. As I love to downwind, I am keen to maximize the efficiency of the upwind leg. What have you found to be improving your vmg? O… --- ## [F4 Surf 137S Tail](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/f4-surf-137s-tail/17933)
**Author:** [@Mattfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Mattfoil)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/f4-surf-137s-tail/17933 "2026-09-24T10:50:23Z")
Basically brand new. Paid $340. Asking $250. Split shipping. --- ## [FS: Foildrive MAX Sport Battery](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-sport-battery/18083)
**Author:** [@thefoilgarage](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/thefoilgarage)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-sport-battery/18083 "2026-09-24T10:47:03Z")
$450 free shipping in usa used 5 times perfect condition --- ## [FS: Foildrive MAX Sport High Power 396 Battery](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-sport-high-power-396-battery/18082)
**Author:** [@thefoilgarage](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/thefoilgarage)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-sport-high-power-396-battery/18082 "2026-09-24T10:44:44Z")
$650 used 1x excellent like new condition free shipping in usa --- ## [FS: Foildrive Max HP batteries (2 available)](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-hp-batteries-2-available/18081)
**Author:** [@thefoilgarage](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/thefoilgarage)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-max-hp-batteries-2-available/18081 "2026-09-24T10:43:13Z")
4 months old like new condition $1,000 each i have 2 for sale --- ## [FS: Foildrive Assist max base kit ( v3 controller/electronics box/nose cone)](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-assist-max-base-kit-v3-controller-electronics-box-nose-cone/18080)
**Author:** [@thefoilgarage](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/thefoilgarage)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 10:40am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/fs-foildrive-assist-max-base-kit-v3-controller-electronics-box-nose-cone/18080 "2026-09-24T10:40:58Z")
$3,100 excellent condition. less than 4 months old free usa shipping using placeholder photo for now. will upload real photos shortly kindly send along any questions Thank You --- ## [Cabrinha hollow 84cm mast](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/cabrinha-hollow-84cm-mast/14827)
**Author:** [@richard](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/richard)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 5:55am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/cabrinha-hollow-84cm-mast/14827 "2026-09-24T05:55:22Z")
In good condition, super stiff, light carbon build. Has a few marks from sanding, but nothing that would affect performance. $500 --- ## [New Masts 2026 - what do you think?](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-masts-2026-what-do-you-think/15725)
**Author:** [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\ **Replies:** 127\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-masts-2026-what-do-you-think/15725 "2026-09-24T03:18:17Z")
Lots of attention to masts lately and lots of new masts out/on their way with some big claims being tossed around… thought we might have a mast thread (like the trash bag thread) to track and compare specs and experienc… --- ## [Back to the future on fuses? Or just chasing our tails?](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/back-to-the-future-on-fuses-or-just-chasing-our-tails/17981)
**Author:** [@Ocean2Mtns](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ocean2Mtns)\ **Replies:** 29\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/back-to-the-future-on-fuses-or-just-chasing-our-tails/17981 "2026-09-24T02:29:57Z")
Stepping back from some of the AWSI news and F4 hotness this year has me laughing. What it brings me back to is all the complaints about the “un-sustainability” of F-One’s saddle connection from ~ a year ago. A year bac… --- ## [Shallow water dock start contraptions](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/shallow-water-dock-start-contraptions/1620)
**Author:** [@Tanner.0](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Tanner.0)\ **Replies:** 24\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/shallow-water-dock-start-contraptions/1620 "2026-09-24T01:50:49Z")
I’ve been seeing videos of people with little dock start contraptions for shallow water where its not enough to beach start. Does anyone sell something like that? Any tips on how to make one? I need a way to get out t… --- ## [Introducing F4 Foils](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/introducing-f4-foils/11274)
**Author:** [@Chrisrad99](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Chrisrad99)\ **Replies:** 618\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/introducing-f4-foils/11274 "2026-09-24T00:37:34Z")
Aloha! It was suggested we introduce our brand as many of you may not have heard about F4 Foils! I wouldn’t be surprised since we’ve been focused on wing foils less so on surf. We’ve been at it since 2013 and really go… --- ## [Armstrong / Appletree Prone Boards / Wing Board / Slick SLS / Axis 400P Stab](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-appletree-prone-boards-wing-board-slick-sls-axis-400p-stab/17646)
**Author:** [@FoilWays](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilWays)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 24, 2026, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-appletree-prone-boards-wing-board-slick-sls-axis-400p-stab/17646 "2026-09-24T00:09:09Z")
Armstrong Surf 36 Prone Foil Board (New Condition): $1100. Appletree Pro Foil V2 37L Prone Foil Board (Mint Condition): $700 Duotone Slick SLS 6.5 No Boom (Great condition. No repairs): $400 Appletree Jazz 62L (Good C… [Next page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/latest.md?page=1)