# Armstrong’s X-Form Board Construction **URL:** \ **Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\ **Created:** [June 11, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001 "2026-06-11T18:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HoverTuna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@HoverTuna](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/HoverTuna)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/1 "2026-06-11T18:53:03Z")
It’s seems that Armstrong was able to achieve an anomaly, strong and light in their new board. They are pretty open about the construction process. Steel mold, PVC wrapping, Carbon layer. How does this process compare to others on the market? Anyone else doing something similar? There’s pretty significant weight savings vs the V1s, but I’m most interested in stiffness and durability scores. > **[Midlength Mk II X-Form Board](https://armstrongfoils.com/en-intl/collections/foil-boards/products/midlength-mk-ii-x-form-board)** > > The Midlength Mk Il marks the next step forward in Armstrong's board design, debuting our all-new molded board technology. Built to deliver a lighter, stronger, and more connected ride, it represents a major leap in durability, response, and... ---
**Author:** ![Dontsink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@Dontsink](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Dontsink)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/2 "2026-06-11T20:38:21Z")
I like the shape,the midlenghts are truly fun to ride. But 4.8kg for an 85lt is light but not that special. My DIY 5.9X21.5X 85ltr is 4.2kg with pad and metric strap inserts.And it has waterproof XPS foam inside. I think the air inside hollows were running at 3.8kg for 85ltrA full kg less or 20% lighter. ---
**Author:** ![maxpwr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@maxpwr](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/maxpwr)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/3 "2026-06-11T20:54:16Z")
It’s the weight + durability combo that seems exciting. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/8/8c2e39e2170dd78465ba759e09579507e7dd9740.jpeg "Armstrong changed the game! New X-wing, Midlength board and masts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sYHpuMCq90&t=2290) ---
**Author:** ![SaltyHaole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SaltyHaole](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SaltyHaole)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/4 "2026-06-12T07:49:52Z")
I take manufacturer’s review and marketing with zero grain of salt…the reviews and statements on here provide more input ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 9:23am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/5 "2026-06-12T09:23:42Z")
yeah I had a lighter board from SPG that took way more abuse and is still going strong, and an appletree that is somewhat stronger. My Armstrong DWP was pretty trashed when I sold it, after way less use. Definitely nothing special, but this X construction looks completely different, so I’d say could be good. HD foam on the deck and rails is a big win, nothing particularly novel just more manufacturing complexity. Windsurf boards all have this ![CleanShot 2026-06-12 at 10.22.54](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/e/e5b6e73ed88fe0fc3941d402e53d06fa586ebeec.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LaPaloude](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/lapaloude/32/7841_2.png) [@LaPaloude](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/LaPaloude)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/6 "2026-06-12T12:18:06Z")
Yeah like you said, its nothing new, just a pvc wrap board. The thing that is different from other’s board, is that its not a full sandwich construction. It lack some fibers on the inner side of the pvc wrap, from what they show on their website. Its way less stiff and durable but you loose some weight. One can arge that its durable enough as the pvc foam is water tight as long as the dings dont goes trought the pvc and that its stiff enough because of the hd foam stringer. The pvc on the rail is thick tho, that’s nice ! Compare to a full sandwich board, you loose weight but you also loose stiffness and durability. Always a trade off but it look good. Way better than EPS wrapped in carbon! ---
**Author:** ![HoverTuna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@HoverTuna](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/HoverTuna)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/7 "2026-06-12T12:51:07Z")
In this video they mention 1. A tighter wrapping process resulting in less use of epoxy between layers. Biggest benefit here on paper is the reduced weight but how much more connected to the foil would this result in? Any durability penalty/same/or better? 2. V1 uses single PVC wrap vs V2 using single + double on the rails. Armie dropping the side on concrete shows there is at least pretty durable out of the box. How about top and bottom though - can we expect those areas to be similar durability as the V1? If so, I’d be curious to hear from V1 users on their experience. ---
**Author:** ![SpokeyDoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/8 "2026-06-12T19:02:30Z")
Watch the recent vid with Armie and Matt Nuzo from Real… informative to see what is under the hood a bit better…the other vid talks more about the molding process and how they are able to reduce the amount of epoxy for lighter and more consistent weights [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/1/109ced2d584a61bfaa1e6d2f6ca9c4ed4cfcc970.jpeg "Armstrong Midlength MKII Foil Board Breakdown with Armie Armstrong") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27p34f8aaY&t=1s) ---
**Author:** ![Dontsink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@Dontsink](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Dontsink)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/9 "2026-06-12T19:42:20Z")
Nice but…what is the big news?. As some have already written windsurfing boards have used single and double PVC full wrap since forever.And many wingfoil manufacturers use it,at least single. Double is strong but heavy,and the smaller the board the more percentage of heavy foam skin. Propietary carbon boxes are nice but why copy a US fin box design?. How are they connecting to deck?.Why not prolong them into bottom stringers or cantilever connections to front foot?. The hot “new” board tech is hollow boards, but female molds are expensive.I do not understand why they are making the molds and then going old PVC wrap tech. They do say something about curing at high pressure and temp but with an EPS core there are pretty low limits to these or the foam will crush ,melt or both.Cannot do an autoclave cure like aerospace or F1. Unless i am missing something,of course. ---
**Author:** ![SpokeyDoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/10 "2026-06-13T02:06:07Z")
hmmm…did we all watch the same videos? Perhaps its nothing special, but the one I rode felt a bit special to me ---
**Author:** ![Cpfoil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/cpfoil/32/17027_2.png) [@Cpfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Cpfoil)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/11 "2026-06-13T02:59:47Z")
I have a 75 markii. Owned the previous version in 75 and 55l sizes. The new version is a solid upgrade. Per volume they feel much smaller on foil and get on foil quicker. I would love to try the 38l for small prone days. ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/12 "2026-06-13T11:17:55Z")
> [@Dontsink](#): > > 5.9X21.5X 85ltr Wow, that board must be thick to be 85 liters with those dimensions ---
**Author:** ![shortcake2516](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/shortcake2516/32/6926_2.png) [@shortcake2516](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/shortcake2516)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/13 "2026-06-13T15:01:58Z")
I think the mold eps blank is so you can make the board faster and more accurate without shaping with a cnc machine or person. I just watch a kt video on cobra factory where their boards are made, similar to what is described here. Most of these “new” tech is old tech with new names. ---
**Author:** ![Wunderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Wunderer](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Wunderer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/armstrong-s-x-form-board-construction/16001/14 "2026-06-13T21:19:52Z")
The innovation appears to be PVC bonding directly to the foam core without an intermediate glass layer so saves weight.