# Axis Foil Reviews: **URL:** \ **Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\ **Created:** [July 28, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143 "2022-07-28T16:28:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gneve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@Gneve](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gneve)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/81 "2023-04-11T13:01:23Z")
Having just watched the clips from Dave West and Oceanpixels, it looks like the prototype wing turns really well but the pump looks less than ideal. Compared to some of the other, leading surf foils, there appears to be less glide and more effort required to pump these new wings. That being said, I am basing this on just a handful of clips. Given that the conditions I see are very close to the Florida waves that strongly influenced the new Unifoil Progression wings, I may have to think about keeping some Axis gear for winging and selling the rest to fund a Unifoil setup. ---
**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/82 "2023-04-11T13:13:18Z")
Or just sell it all, because the Unifoil gear is also great for winging! ---
**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/83 "2023-04-11T13:17:58Z")
If the surf wing doesnt look promising to me, I will be moving off Axis around May to Unifoil, we’ll see! I’m skeptical on Unifoil rear wing options, seems like they only have a few carbon ones + the G10 3 packs. If there is some adapter that will let me use Axis rears with Unifoil that would be pretty sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/84 "2023-04-11T13:24:35Z")
All bottom mounted stabilizer options work on Unifoil - so there are tons of options. I primarily use Takuma and KD stabilizers and they are great. I actually only have one Unifoil stabilizer and rarely use it. Sorry - back to Axis. ---
**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/85 "2023-04-11T13:25:12Z")
Oh thats good to know, thanks ---
**Author:** ![Rad\_Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rad\_Duke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Rad_Duke)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/86 "2023-04-12T13:54:11Z")
Agree, Unifoil is also great for winging, but everything is great for winging. Slow wings are great for winging, fast wings are great for winging, poorly gliding wings are great for winging, glider wings are great for winging… If you primarily wing you don’t really need to constantly be upgrading gear in my opinion. Prone is very difficult and sensitive in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/87 "2023-04-12T17:38:53Z")
You mean this clip? I guess I would say that I’m impressed with a bottom turn breach and not bailing. Hard to judge pumping from a clip would be my _to be fair_ comment. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/b/b9461adbba7219588de50ad288ec21c5ca4dd801.jpeg "Super fun session") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbu5XZXi5yM) ---
**Author:** ![McD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/mcd/32/5694_2.png) [@McD](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/McD)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/88 "2023-04-14T07:55:21Z")
It might be worth having a look at the 877 on here - they fit Axis black fuses and were designed and optimised around a low stall speed and low drag when gliding but without too much compromise at the top end. Anhedral shape + tips are designed to breach and continue with minimal fuss. The result is a foil which is still faster than most out there but with an incredible bottom end and carves easily. This has been my goto foil since we launched it last year as it is just so much fun and so versatile; we have since done an 1107cm^2 version that is slightly higher span but reduced AR to try to maintain efficiency and turning for heavier riders / less powerful conditions. Full disclosure - I designed them so am perhaps biased, but feel free to shoot any specific q’s my way! > **[Front Wing 877](https://www.maguireboats.com/front-wing-877-437-p.asp)** > > The foil sections are designed for low stall speed and high maximum lift, with very low drag over the range of lift coefficients for pumping but ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/89 "2023-04-14T08:38:23Z")
@McD I was very close to ordering one of your demo masts as an alternative to the Axis HM. I really like the idea of your team bringing some high performance Moth experience to foiling! Have you managed to get the 1107 to roll more easily than the 1099? That would be very interesting if it still pumps well. Have you given them a go prone surfing? If you’re interested we have a few guys very familiar with the ART range in the surf in North Cornwall who would be very interested in the optimisations over the 899 and 1099. Key shortcomings for us are usually that they don’t handle choppy surf conditions which are pretty typical. ---
**Author:** ![McD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/mcd/32/5694_2.png) [@McD](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/McD)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/90 "2023-04-14T09:51:49Z")
Nice! Yes our masts were HM and stiff before others were chasing that… I think we are still stiffer and more tapered than most 😉 I’ve not tried the 1099 personally only the 999, but based on the parameters I would say yes: 1099: 1100 wingspan / AR 10.6 / 1144cm^2 area 1107: 976 wingspan / AR 8.6 / 1107cm^2 area Added to this the planform is more tapered which generally helps roll, all else being equal. Area is slighlty smaler on the 1107 but the foil can be pushed really hard before stall so I would expect the bottom end to be higher also. I’ve only winged them, but can depower and pump a long way. The 877 has been in some big surf prone + tow in and seemed to work well. Obviously for really big surf a shorter span might be preferable if you are prepared to trade bottom end for turning. It would be great to get some of the guys in Cornwall give them a try ---
**Author:** ![Sofoil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sofoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Sofoil)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/91 "2023-04-14T16:08:59Z")
Very interesting. Could you tell us the specifications of the 877. AR, area, projected area, etc…i don’t see it on your site. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Sofoil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sofoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Sofoil)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/92 "2023-04-14T16:20:00Z")
It would be nice to promote this wing. If you are looking for prone riders to try it and make feedbacks or videos . I would do that with pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![frozenfoiler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/frozenfoiler/32/1056_2.png) [@frozenfoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/frozenfoiler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/93 "2023-04-17T00:40:21Z")
What makes “(Lift HA, Takuma, Cabrinha HA, Uni)” " premium" ? ---
**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/94 "2023-04-17T02:45:29Z")
The premium price tag. > [@frozenfoiler](#): > > What makes “(Lift HA, Takuma, Cabrinha HA, Uni)” " premium" ? ---
**Author:** ![frozenfoiler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/frozenfoiler/32/1056_2.png) [@frozenfoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/frozenfoiler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/95 "2023-04-17T18:28:18Z")
Sounds like when my grandpa used to get pissed when we didn’t buy him ice cream that had the word Premium on the packaging 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/96 "2023-04-17T18:56:01Z")
Interestingly full priced Axis HM mast +2 foils Axis setup is within £100 of a progression 140 katana complete + progression 170. I don’t think I would exclude Axis from “premium” based on price? ---
**Author:** ![Rad\_Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rad\_Duke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Rad_Duke)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/97 "2023-04-18T00:28:08Z")
Rode the 1010 again the other day in small surf with a classic 13’’ KD tail and aluminum mast, fantastic lightwind winging setup. I really love that wing, it even breeches great ---
**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/98 "2023-04-26T19:04:46Z")
I think this is the new Surf wing: [EDO Tanas on Instagram: "Imagine being a bird 🦅 0 gravity on this setup @axisfoils @rjsurfboards"](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cre9bBHg95T/) I dont recognize that shape, it doesnt look like any current wings to me at least. Kind of looks like an HPS stretched out at the tips. ---
**Author:** ![Westcoastfoiler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/westcoastfoiler/32/1280_2.png) [@Westcoastfoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Westcoastfoiler)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/99 "2023-04-27T12:06:51Z")
Hey guys not a foil review as such but just got myself the power carbon high modulus 75cm mast, First thoughts where definitely looks and feels more solid than the old carbon mast I have been on and this proved even more noticeable in the waves, the responsiveness was a stand out for me straight away at first flight, even the pump which I was expecting to feel a bit more drag with the longer cord at the bottom of the mast compared with the old mast this wasn’t the case and I think due to being able to push down and trust it won’t twitch out gives you a lot more confidence and I found myself doing some of my longer runs to date, even when carving the stiffness is amazing and just gives you the confidence to push harder knowing you won’t get that unexpected twitch that I use to with the old carbon mast so overall extremely happy. Is it worth the price tag that’s up to the individual but it’s got me grinning ear to ear so not complaining. I’m 83kg ride mostly prone some DW but early stages, surf is anywhere from waist to over head wings used 980 HPS 999&1099 art with a variety of tails all on the short fuse. 4’8 sunova and 6’9 elite boards ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/c/c758d3e2c82eae837ca57d29d30b17cc19d6da96.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143/100 "2023-04-27T12:30:15Z")
Thanks for opinion. Jw are you happy you got the 75 instead of the 82? [Previous page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/axis-foil-reviews/143.md?page=6)