# Downwind SUP Guide **URL:** \ **Category:** Downwind Foil\ **Created:** [November 17, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/downwind-sup-guide/969 "2022-11-17T15:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![difficultyocean](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/difficultyocean/32/281_2.png) [@difficultyocean](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/difficultyocean)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/downwind-sup-guide/969/6 "2022-11-20T15:43:06Z")
2nd vote on the Casey Club… The tuesday videos alone are worth it. For your convenience, another thread on paddles: > [@Paddle size for DW foiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/paddle-size-for-dw-foiling/264/2): > > Hey Vince, I’m fairly new to SUP DW foiling but have been going back and forth on paddles as well. My two cents…. I have borrowed some really stiff paddles and some pretty big blades. If you are wanting to flatwater pop-up, you’ll need every advantage possible - fast board (long and narrow), big foil, big full carbon paddle. I did 8-9 sessions on flatwater trying to paddle up my 1440 Kujira and was able to get off the water but not fully get liftoff (no matter what paddle I used) and pump around… --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/downwind-sup-guide/969)._