# Front wing degredation

**URL:** <https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453>\
**Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\
**Created:** [March 4, 2026, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453 "2026-03-04T10:25:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453/1 "2026-03-04T10:25:17Z")

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As front wings are getting smaller it seems like we’re putting more stress on a smaller, thinner, piece of carbon.

is there any degradation of the material over time that could be causing a decrease in the spring, pop, or stiffness after a year or two of hard use?

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**Author:** ![Zarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47774/32.png) [@Zarb](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Zarb)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453/2 "2026-03-04T15:36:31Z")

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Or as the front wings get smaller like you say - the leverage is decreased so overall the stress is lower/the same?

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**Author:** ![EmeryThrill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@EmeryThrill](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/EmeryThrill)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453/3 "2026-03-04T19:38:16Z")

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I think the answer is generally yes - which is leading to more mixed materials (Carbon/Metal) development (e.g. Axis Ti Link).

I’ve heard from one designer that they can feel the difference in an old vs new carbon mast, so there might be a there, there!

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**Author:** ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453/4 "2026-03-04T22:47:11Z")

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The leverage on roll maybe but when you’re just cruising down the line it’s all of your body weight being held up by a piece of carbon that’s whatever thickness the wing is. as things get thinner They become exponentially harder to keep strong and stiff.

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**Author:** ![Wouzel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/wouzel/32/12510_2.png) [@Wouzel](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Wouzel)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/front-wing-degredation/14453/5 "2026-03-05T04:20:24Z")

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I’ve had two pieces of gear degrade. One was a front foil. Cloud IX fs900. When new, application of 75lbs of force deflected the foil slightly before it reached a point where additional weight provided no further deflection. After a few hundred miles of use the performance dropped dramatically. 35lbs of force was now able to push the foil completely flat onto the fuse (these are monoblock style like Code/Lift). I contacted C9 about the issue and they informed me it was a layup issue, replaced the foil, and the new one never degraded.

Since then I’ve made a habit of noting this on all my new foils and I’ve never been able to verify any noticeable degradation, even over thousands of miles of use.