# Good entry paddle for a novice paddler? **URL:** \ **Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\ **Created:** [March 16, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703 "2023-03-16T02:55:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ckfoiler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Ckfoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ckfoiler)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/1 "2023-03-16T02:55:45Z")
I am getting ready to make the jump into down wind sup foiling and am starting to get gear together but am totally lost when it comes to the paddle. I am very comfortable on foil both winging and prone but have no sup experience. I am looking for a paddle that is on the cheaper side but will get me up in the surf while I dial in sup skills and will get me on my first runs. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![difficultyocean](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/difficultyocean/32/281_2.png) [@difficultyocean](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/difficultyocean)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/2 "2023-03-17T20:52:44Z")
I’m using the 2 piece adjustable naish s26 performance paddle. It was only 200$. I’ve gone from 0 sup experience to being able to paddle up in the flats and starting to do short DW runs. Still working OK for me so far. ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_slides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@Jordan\_slides](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Jordan_slides)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/3 "2023-03-22T11:32:52Z")
Blade size is probably an important factor. Too big and the new load on shoulders could be costly. I also found when starting with SUP that a smaller blade made navigating a bit easier - that is, just paddling straight is a challenge at first, and the large blades will make you go in circles haha. ---
**Author:** ![Ckfoiler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Ckfoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ckfoiler)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/4 "2023-03-23T00:03:40Z")
What do you think a good starting point is, I was thinking around 90cm^2 ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_slides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@Jordan\_slides](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Jordan_slides)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/5 "2023-03-23T02:51:48Z")
Others on here with more authority on that, but i’d assume 72-82sqi is small, up to 95sqi is big, and 105+ is mega?? ---
**Author:** ![difficultyocean](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/difficultyocean/32/281_2.png) [@difficultyocean](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/difficultyocean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/6 "2023-03-23T03:58:41Z")
80ish seems to be a well tolerated size for both beginner and pro alike. ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 9:06am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/7 "2023-03-23T09:06:16Z")
good info here from Marcus Tardrew > To start I’d say be very careful about going really big. Supping can be hard on your shoulders and we all want to be doing this when we are 80, right? When you are learning you’re going to paddle up hundreds of times more than the accomplished DW foiler and those huge blades you see out there are going to put you more at risk of injury when you perform as many sprints as a learner does each session. > Once you’re paddling up easily and staying on foil for longer periods then things can change. The crew I foil with are different. It’s not about long skinny boards for these advanced guys. I’m the smallest of the bunch and use the longest skinniest board at 6’10 x 18. The closest in size to me quite often uses his 5’9 sinker!! What we noticed is that the big blade doesn’t work well with the small boards. You need higher reps to get them up and going because they have less glide and the bigger blade doesn’t help with that. > To summarize, bigger blades work great with long slippery boards and smaller blades seem to match the shorter surfier boards better. > **[SUP Foil Downwind Tips – Getting started with SUNOVA’s Marcus Tardrew | TotalSUP](https://www.totalsup.com/news/sup-foil-downwind-sunova-marcus-tardrew/)** > > SUP foiling is a rapidly growing part of Stand Up Paddling with more and more paddlers learning to fly. As more paddlers learn how to make the most of their new skills Downwind SUP Foiling has seen a huge growth in popularity, particularly down under... ---
**Author:** ![OmarFoilCol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4bbf92/32.png) [@OmarFoilCol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/OmarFoilCol)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/8 "2023-03-25T12:13:46Z")
Hello!! Go for black project if you have access to them, they ship internationally and have wide range of options with different prices. If you want to start on a budget but still a good carbon with a blade that’s not gonna tear apart your shoulder go for the LAVA. If you want to go premium go for the SPRINT X, it’s a racing paddle optimized for sprinting as it’s name indicates, which is what you want for sup downwinds. These are more expensive but materials are premium, it’s what I use for downwind. Don’t get the adjustable thing… It only adds weight (and also water) and reduces stiffness. Start cutting a bit on the highest side and then keep cutting down until you find your sweet spot. For downwinding I use at the length of my own total height, maybe you want to start with couple inches more. ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/9 "2024-09-25T02:16:54Z")
Seems like lots of companies are coming out with new low aspect paddles; Axis, Starboard, KT, and others. Curious if any of these will be lower cost than what’s currently available… ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/10 "2024-09-30T07:02:21Z")
High performance SUP paddles are too fragile for foiling, especially if you are a novice. If spending significant money, I’d buy something designed for foiling. Seemingly the KT paddles are designed to withstand some abuse. > [KT Foil Blade Pro Carbon Sup Foil Paddle](https://foilshop.com/products/kt-foil-blade-pro-carbon-sup-foil-paddle) > Unlike thin-bladed paddles that buckle, split, and delaminate on even slight impact, the Foil Blade offers the durability and structural integrity comparable to hydrofoils, which withstand impacts with rocks and reefs with only minor chips or scratches. Nearly everyone I foil with that has spent money on high quality SUP paddles has pretty much destroyed them ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/11 "2024-09-30T14:16:19Z")
I would love a comparison between the KT and Axis. The axis is $100 less expensive and comes with a case ---
**Author:** ![seawing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@seawing](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/seawing)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/12 "2024-09-30T15:22:33Z")
I’ve been pretty happy with the Starboard Enduro Carbon. It looks like they’ve just launched the Enduro Carbon Foil, which they say has additional impact resistance for foiling. ---
**Author:** ![OmarFoilCol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4bbf92/32.png) [@OmarFoilCol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/OmarFoilCol)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/14 "2024-09-30T19:46:30Z")
@Bwalnut Hey Bryan! Yeah - that’s my paddle for sup surfing too - I even use it sometimes for sup foiling surfing too, but not that much since my sup surf paddle I cut it very very short (I ride a 68L board) - It’s a great paddle for surf in terms of stroke power and able to have higher cadence so you can catch a wave - For sup foiling downwind I feel you do need a wider blade so you can focus on more power per stroke rather than a higher cadence as in sup surf - ---
**Author:** ![foilball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@foilball](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilball)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/15 "2024-10-01T19:49:38Z")
what foil are you using to learn flat water paddle up? ---
**Author:** ![FoilWays](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilways/32/5224_2.png) [@FoilWays](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilWays)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/16 "2024-10-01T20:52:39Z")
I just picked up one of the new Black Project Foil Xs in size L (98in2). I’m 84kg. I have a few smaller blades so I decided to go bigger on this one. I only took it out once, with fins, surfing, but so far I really like it. I can see that the M 90in might be better suited for most guys. ---
**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/17 "2024-10-01T20:56:19Z")
If you want to save some $, the Chinook paddles are a good value. Tried QB and Code paddles too and while they are nicer, I didn’t notice enough difference to justify the price for my use, but I’m a SUP novice at best. ---
**Author:** ![Bido11561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Bido11561](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Bido11561)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/18 "2025-03-17T22:20:28Z")
How are you feeling about the Large foil X? Got some more sessions with it on the foil? ---
**Author:** ![FoilWays](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilways/32/5224_2.png) [@FoilWays](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilWays)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/19 "2025-03-18T00:53:18Z")
Oh, hi. I was just talking to you on YouTube. Yeah, same answer. I’m happy I went with the Large. ---
**Author:** ![SpokeyDoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/20 "2025-03-19T13:24:31Z")
TJ has thoughts on this… [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/b/b3ce0f405a35ca911a2552f6abceb5658dcbcfc6.jpeg "Tested: Black Project FoilX Paddle") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7jYL3Y51w&t=4s) ---
**Author:** ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703/21 "2025-03-23T17:50:41Z")
Motivated by this thread, went back to a smaller, 82 starboard enduro and def enabled faster paddling than a 90 kanaha. So will stick to the smaller one for now [Next page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/good-entry-paddle-for-a-novice-paddler/1703.md?page=2)