# How to increase pumping time? **URL:** \ **Category:** Technique\ **Created:** [April 23, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643 "2025-04-23T00:31:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mtnfoil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mtnfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Mtnfoil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/1 "2025-04-23T00:31:06Z")
Hi all, I’m sure this has been posted about elsewhere but can’t find it. I’ve been learning to pump on my FD setup, using either 180 or 220hax wings. I’ve found I can consistently get pump runs about 20-30 seconds long but can’t get beyond that. Not sure if it’s fitness, technique (combo of the two?). I find I lose speed and can’t recover it. Any thoughts or tips on how to extend the range/maintain and build speed? ---
**Author:** ![JonnieTyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@JonnieTyler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/JonnieTyler)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/2 "2025-04-23T01:06:52Z")
Without seeing video, I would guess your problem is your technique. This is usually the biggest problem people have with their pump technique, [https://youtu.be/XYTj9aCZfo8?si=3qw0JfqeL4s8s\_\_P](https://youtu.be/XYTj9aCZfo8?si=3qw0JfqeL4s8s__P) ---
**Author:** ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/3 "2025-04-23T01:17:14Z")
a sponsored rider told once that its also a matter of building the muscle. kinda agree with that. its not just a matter of technique, you grow into it ---
**Author:** ![Mtnfoil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mtnfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Mtnfoil)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/4 "2025-04-23T01:21:26Z")
That’s a good point, getting some video of myself to study is probably a good next step ---
**Author:** ![anaerobic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/anaerobic/32/3567_2.png) [@anaerobic](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/anaerobic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/5 "2025-04-23T01:24:31Z")
Mast height is key. Keep that foil high in the water. Keep a steady cadence with your pumps and try to keep the pumps shallow if that makes sense. More like light taps rather than big up-and-down swoops. Any speed you lose, you have to regain by finding the energy on the bumps again or by pumping back up to a better mast height. Those are bigger foils and forgiving at lower speeds so you will be able to keep them going with some practice. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![tangogeoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/tangogeoff/32/31_2.png) [@tangogeoff](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/tangogeoff)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/how-to-increase-pumping-time/9643/6 "2025-04-23T03:57:40Z")
Matt’s link was a breakthrough for me, speaking as a FoilDrive guy [Foil Trim - how to get the balance right - #5 by Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/foil-trim-how-to-get-the-balance-right/5406/5) Thanks Matt!