# Hydrocraft foils

**URL:** <https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033>\
**Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\
**Created:** [September 2, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033 "2025-09-02T18:48:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/1 "2025-09-02T18:48:56Z")

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Looks cool, I remember enjoying the [podcast with Brodie](https://soundcloud.com/progressionproject/brodie-sutherland-designer-of-cabrinha-foils), cool to see something new, foils look great in [the little clip](https://www.instagram.com/p/DOGp2YVEfaO/?hl=en) they put out

> **[Foils](https://www.hydrocraftsystems.com/pages/foils)**
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> Hydrocraft designs premium hydrofoils and boards for forward-thinking riders. Gear built for versatility, performance, and exploring the unknown.

 ![CleanShot 2025-09-02 at 19.46.06](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/a/a0809b7bad576dad27805ebd47360f8392470eae.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/2 "2025-09-02T20:10:14Z")

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That tail fuse connection to front wing is nice

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**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/3 "2025-09-02T21:41:38Z")

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I hate to see yet another connection system but that one actually seems pretty good

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**Author:** ![shep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/shep/32/3630_2.png) [@shep](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/shep)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/4 "2025-09-02T22:09:34Z")

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that connection looks so cool. Good group of solid foilers starting this one up. Sorta like the American Code 😉

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**Author:** ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/5 "2025-09-02T23:15:02Z")

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Seems like a lot going on with that fuse. Lots of forces being managed in a lot of directions for carbon. Lots of complexity to solve for the problem of stripped inserts (a problem I’ve never had in 7 years of assembling Foils with an impact driver)

I don’t know I’m really not in the market for a marginally improved small rodent eradication device.

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**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/6 "2025-09-03T11:41:01Z")

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I think anything that tries to make the connection more rigid is good, and this seems to be a novel approach, which is also good as a way to break out of the local maxima of the current Axis style slot that wears away and needs repotting.

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> Good group of solid foilers starting this one up. Sorta like the American Code 😉

Yeah this is cool, I’m all for products owned and built by riders.

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**Author:** ![beavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@beavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beavis)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/7 "2025-09-03T14:22:39Z")

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I am saying this with out seeing it in person. But the stab only having one screw holding it in place. To me that is a pivot point. Then there is only the carbon slot to hold the alignment. I would worry about those slots developing play over time.

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**Author:** ![MattElsasser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MattElsasser](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/MattElsasser)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/8 "2025-09-09T18:17:46Z")

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Hey Guys, thanks for the support! You can see a little update on the connection system on our IG here. [https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJKgwokSQg/](https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJKgwokSQg/)

Always happy to answer any questions we can. See you on the water!

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**Author:** ![Meow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Meow](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Meow)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/9 "2025-09-10T00:42:29Z")

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What are your plans for your foil lines. Will you do a 9.5 and 13 ar like code? And eta?

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**Author:** ![MattElsasser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MattElsasser](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/MattElsasser)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/10 "2025-09-10T16:08:41Z")

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We’ve designed a full range of foils from 7AR up to 16AR, and everything in between. But before rolling out the whole quiver, we needed a rock-solid test platform to dial in the mast-to-foil connection here in the Gorge.

That work started with a 903 cm² wing at 10.2AR, which is our bread and butter aspect ratio here in Hood River. We’ll be sharing more footage of that setup soon, but you can expect us to launch out of the gates with a focused lineup of 10AR foils, then expand into the rest of the range from there.

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**Author:** ![Patrickrebstock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c67d28/32.png) [@Patrickrebstock](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Patrickrebstock)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/11 "2025-10-25T15:11:25Z")

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Was lucky enough to try one of the first protos at 903cm 10.2ar with a 6’6 80 liter mid-length this summer with the parawing. Super stoked on where foiling is headed. Here is a video of those first feels of trying the proto gear. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LTff5TezRPg&pp=2AafAQ%3D%3D](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LTff5TezRPg&pp=2AafAQ%3D%3D)

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**Author:** ![MattElsasser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MattElsasser](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/MattElsasser)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/12 "2026-02-05T17:49:09Z")

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Hey Guys,

Wanted to jump on here and share an update on the connection. We’re about 9 months into the development of it, many iterations, and a few sleepless nights. But we feel like we’ve hit the sweet spot when it comes to sleek performance, ease of use, and durability with the latest samples. I don’t want to make any claims beyond that until you try it yourself, but we’re really stoked on how it’s working.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/7/7224873614a7d73770df3a62c06e843f42d602b0.jpeg "Hydrocraft Foil Connection Update #2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CEkQh79ukM)

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**Author:** ![mirza3627162](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mirza3627162](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/mirza3627162)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/13 "2026-02-05T18:23:54Z")

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Wow the replaceable titanium plate and only one insert in the mast foot looks awesome!

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**Author:** ![SpokeyDoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/14 "2026-02-05T19:38:49Z")

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Somebody’s gotta ask: M6?

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**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/15 "2026-02-05T19:41:22Z")

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Looks like it, but I’m an m6 hater and I dont mind this. In my eyes, the system seems to be designed to take a lot of the stress off the fastener.

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**Author:** ![oceanfrother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@oceanfrother](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/oceanfrother)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/16 "2026-02-05T21:23:07Z")

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Well done guys. Simplicity is key and this looks like one of the better connections around dealing with all the issues especially hitting consistent tolerances during manufacturing. I never really loved the tuttle connection from mast to fuse this solves that issue. 🤙🏻

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**Author:** ![MattElsasser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MattElsasser](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/MattElsasser)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/17 "2026-02-05T21:27:44Z")

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Yes, M6. We went with a deep mortise-and-tenon fit (tuttle style). This helps significantly reduce the load on the hardware compared to a butt joint/saddle connection, and the clamping forces allowed us to thin and round out the fuselage vs. standard 2-bolt tuttles while retaining a very stiff feel.

During testing, we felt that thin fuselages unlock ‘another gear’ of smoothness. We wanted to capture that efficiency but alleviate the risk of failure if a bolt loosened. You can see in the pic how ours compares to the thinnest butt-joint connection out there.

Brodie will have to chime in with the data/specifics, I’m no engineer, just a 200lb guy who likes efficient and stiff gear.

 ![IMG_6192.HEIC](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/f/f3e7650d9b7f8f3da5ebb87e010b6ce842eeda05.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/18 "2026-02-06T02:33:40Z")

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That’s the best connection yet. That gets my vote for the new standard

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**Author:** ![jenz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/jenz/32/16455_2.png) [@jenz](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/jenz)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/19 "2026-02-06T09:00:19Z")

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In my experience M6 is totally fine if the engineering is solid. I’ve had M6 foil systems where the screws needed replacing every third session, and others that just never failed. I think once this is released it will be the best connection on the market.

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**Author:** ![jondrums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@jondrums](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/jondrums)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/hydrocraft-foils/12033/20 "2026-02-06T18:31:57Z")

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this connection system kicks ass. I am a huge fan just from watching your video. It just makes so much sense and solves all the issues I’ve been seeing over the years with other systems.

Would you strongly consider “open source” publishing the connection system CAD file and associated drawing tolerances? I always though it was a good thing that the tuttle system drawing was freely distributed from the beginning and that meant for 40 years we got all kinds of compatible gear for windsurfing and now foiling.

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