# Lift 120ha vs 150hax **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [September 24, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-120ha-vs-150hax/3299 "2023-09-24T03:20:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DickDastard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d78d45/32.png) [@DickDastard](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/DickDastard)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-120ha-vs-150hax/3299/1 "2023-09-24T03:20:07Z")
Real world difference? Interested in turning and speed. I know the 150 will pop up earlier. Speed and turning I’m wondering about. Anyone ridden both? ---
**Author:** ![Maxipadd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/maxipadd/32/1754_2.png) [@Maxipadd](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Maxipadd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-120ha-vs-150hax/3299/2 "2023-09-24T11:06:10Z")
I have both wings. I use the 120 as my daily driver and have ridden it for probably 2 years and still love it. That being said I am interested in trying new wings and will probably get a 150 surf soon. The 150 HAX I use for downwinding. The glide that the 150 has is insane. Also its speed range to me seems enormous. We’ve had a lot of NE wind in New Jersey lately and I rode the 150 HAX on an ocean downwinder where it was blowing 30-35mph with swell around 4-6ft. That very same night I took the same set up to the bay where the wind speed was the same but the bumps were probably 1ft at 3-4 seconds. The 150hax handled both conditions pretty damn good in my opinion. I always ride the 120 with the 26 carve 150hax with 25 glide. To me I think the extra length on the fuse on the 25 glide is what makes a big difference between the two when I try to compare. Sorry for the long winded response hahah Long story short 120-more turny, and slightly higher top end 150hax- less turny, better low end and close to equal top end, way better pump. ---
**Author:** ![Becarefoil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/becarefoil/32/1424_2.png) [@Becarefoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Becarefoil)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-120ha-vs-150hax/3299/3 "2023-11-01T09:14:51Z")
I completely second what Maxipadd wrote, i have the same feelings. I really enjoy the 150X + 26 Carve combo, making the eing a bit faster and turnier.