# Lift mast and fuse stiffness especially vs Axis HM **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [December 16, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139 "2023-12-16T01:30:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![foilanywhere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@foilanywhere](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilanywhere)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139/1 "2023-12-16T01:30:26Z")
Hi all, Anyone got any actual data on mast stiffness and also mast and fuse as the connection system makes a massive difference. Be great to compare say Lift latest / Axis HM / Unifoil latest / Code I’m particularly interested in vs Axis HM which I’m on but also vs anything to get some bench marks. I’ve ridden a lot of gear and brands including considerable time on Armstrong and Go foil. If no data then say back to back testing / riding and real world experience. Thanks all. ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139/2 "2023-12-16T02:56:34Z")
It’s definitely nice to have a nice sturdy setup, but every company is getting so close that it’s mattering less and less. Here’s a 3.5 year old 1300sqcm front wing, with one of the worst connections systems, with a very flex mast. …and he’s absolutely ripping. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/c/c00723c5fe65d72c3fb45097f73e7c1d9ab0b700.jpeg "Scotty @foilwizard Connecting waves on his Hydrofoil") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrhJv_jUPNU) ---
**Author:** ![Bonifacio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@Bonifacio](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Bonifacio)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139/3 "2023-12-21T06:56:36Z")
This has been posted before AND there’s no Axis carbon comparison but… it’s definitely information that I found on the internet 🧐 My takeaway from (owning several of the masts listed) was that beyond 350000 (units?) there was no significant useability difference for my purposes. ![Screen Shot 2023-12-21 at 6.51.07 AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/2/2d3a1ce4e17c0ec4a0828061a4ef084ff9c6321b.png) ---
**Author:** ![foilanywhere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@foilanywhere](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilanywhere)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139/4 "2023-12-21T19:21:48Z")
Thanks Hard to get information across manufacturers. I definitely feel and notice a big difference in even all the high end in terms of stiffness mast brands. Both stiffness but also performance feel and section. Drag, glide etc The fuse and front foil connection system also plays a massive part but that’s another issue and area I look at also. The gear has come a long way over the last 5 years but some brands are just doing it much better. Body weight and level of performance we are after is another key one. I’m 83kg 185cm and after high end in every foil discipline. ---
**Author:** ![1000islandsfoil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/1000islandsfoil/32/3413_2.png) [@1000islandsfoil](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/1000islandsfoil)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/lift-mast-and-fuse-stiffness-especially-vs-axis-hm/4139/5 "2023-12-24T13:38:32Z")
try the new axis ultra mast if you can, its unreal