# New KT foils - who has some info

**URL:** <https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382>\
**Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\
**Created:** [August 5, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382 "2024-08-05T21:36:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/46 "2024-09-10T19:51:05Z")

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I don’t know but the demand is HIGH! Better call up your fav KT dealer and pre-order. Maybe slip your dealer a sixer of their fav beverage!

In other news CODE foils is OUT as the hot new foil brand. Barely used code gear should be flooding the market any min now!

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**Author:** ![hahninthehood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@hahninthehood](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/hahninthehood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/48 "2024-09-10T20:12:24Z")

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🤣 I’m convinced that the majority of us foilers (particularly on the forums) are in the OCD/ADHD spectrum. Whenever new gear shows up it’s like, “SQUIRREL!!!”

I’m pretty sure 90% of the gear already out there is far more capable than 90% of us.

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**Author:** ![SpokeyDoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SpokeyDoke](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/SpokeyDoke)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/49 "2024-09-11T01:48:53Z")

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not thinking about trying to buy just yet…just wondering when to start looking for real world reviews…

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**Author:** ![Eriefoiler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/eriefoiler/32/7741_2.png) [@Eriefoiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Eriefoiler)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/50 "2024-09-11T14:21:49Z")

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Foiling is a hype cycle Ponzi scheme. But I’m here for it

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**Author:** ![OmarFoilCol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4bbf92/32.png) [@OmarFoilCol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/OmarFoilCol)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/51 "2024-09-11T15:10:38Z")

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and the last ones to get in always get the worst part? 🤣  
Or is it the 2nd ones that get screwed when new stuff come out and their gear is no longer worthy 😆

Foinzi Scheme!

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**Author:** ![hwy1north](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@hwy1north](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/hwy1north)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/52 "2024-09-11T21:03:55Z")

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#$%@ I can’t even get off the ground without putting a hand down, let alone a 60 liter board…

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**Author:** ![foilpatrol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilpatrol/32/5860_2.png) [@foilpatrol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilpatrol)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/53 "2024-09-16T04:02:25Z")

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Maybe you’ll rethink your position…  
I was running the 790F /145R /58 Fuse/ 85 Mast.

I’m about 200lbs wet running mid length 75L/3.5 M wing in 15-18.  
5 Miles run shitty conditions with small bumps. Knee high at most.  
Getting up was fairly easy, could go fairly slow without stalling.

Not draggy at all. Quite smooth

That setup was far from suitable for the conditions.  
I should have been on the 790/170 /63 fuse

 ![IMG_3614](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/7/7488c648faa31df97839dc2f5502a0b2847e9ff6.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_3615](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/6/6b873523be012905d1b8e0826b298a8521c5c8c2.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_3612](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/3/3e9a979fbd98870c446c1eb5224b18a6f87646a4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![foilpatrol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilpatrol/32/5860_2.png) [@foilpatrol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilpatrol)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/54 "2024-09-16T04:09:36Z")

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Don’t think these are game changers but they have a really good go to market strategy.  
With the aluminum mast you should be able to score that kit for around $1300 as far as  
I understand it. That’s pretty sick foil for that money.

They are probably coming with Monobloc Front/Tail at some point in the future. Probably  
next year.

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**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/55 "2024-09-16T04:38:46Z")

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> [@foilpatrol](#):
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> With the aluminum mast you should be able to score that kit for around $1300 as far as  
> I understand it. That’s pretty sick foil for that money.

That would be a game changer if true. Aluminum mast would be just fine with me at that price. $2300ish with the carbon mast is what I’ve been hearing.

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**Author:** ![foilpatrol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilpatrol/32/5860_2.png) [@foilpatrol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilpatrol)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/56 "2024-09-16T05:13:25Z")

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Yup. That’s what I heard as well.  
Not sure if that was mentioned but the tails coming with the kit are G10 construction.

The One-Lock SlingShot kit with the aluminum mast and the monobloc carbon wings suppose to be around the 1300 as well. Pretty aggressive.

I had the new Slingshot Glide 725 foil in similar conditions as the KT. Very capable foil. I believe they’ll be very popular as well with that price point.

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**Author:** ![foilpatrol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilpatrol/32/5860_2.png) [@foilpatrol](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilpatrol)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/58 "2024-09-16T06:08:39Z")

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River run on easterly. Home Valley to Stevenson.  
Great Turning, Great pumping.

Do not take this as any kind of a review, maybe a preview.  
Not enough time on it and no back to back comparison with other familiar foils.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/walter/32/108_2.png) [@walter](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/60 "2024-09-16T18:30:44Z")

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The foil shop has preorders and pricing for the KT foils. They think they will be shipping by Oct 30.

> **[Atlas Collection by KT](https://foilshop.com/collections/atlas-collection-by-kt?srsltid=AfmBOopyGOZlPmV8y8p9tafRrqcuXEHmuhuqx-EQmte57Ofllf_HAnCx)**
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> PRE-ORDER Should ship by October 30th Unmatched efficiency, glide, acceleration and maneuverability for experienced riders. The Atlas series is crafted for intermediate to advanced riders seeking exceptional glide, acceleration, and a broad...

> **[Nomad Collection by KT](https://foilshop.com/collections/nomad-collection-by-kt?srsltid=AfmBOop77h37_CT6BneFtHnNOyhCbLHC53s8bGT9dcE1Nx4-nH-obBbn)**
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> PRE-ORDER Should ship by October 30th Dynamic control, exceptional speed range, and adapt-able performance across all conditions. The Nomad series is designed to unlock intuitive handling and control over an exceptionally wide range of speeds...

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**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/61 "2024-09-16T20:32:07Z")

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Thats a nice price point, ~$1000 for a new set up with an adapter for Cedrus users

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**Author:** ![Banjohead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@Banjohead](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Banjohead)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/62 "2024-10-02T22:50:33Z")

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Anyone know the chord measurements of the masts?

All I ever see is thickness/length

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**Author:** ![radair](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/radair/32/728_2.png) [@radair](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/radair)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/63 "2024-10-03T01:21:43Z")

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Some info here that I haven’t seen posted:

 ![IMG_0412](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/e/ec68acd746a33a4fda4d7abc0e82a89cdba010e5.jpeg)  
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 ![IMG_0414](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/5/5b097427cf119576c361624fcc1217e9e00342af.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_0415](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/2/20aaeefc77a3875b8bd27f345a9569ebee8694ca.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_0416](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/2/2d077cac2381b6658c2f3d1b14098724ed93a964.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![taavi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/taavi/32/477_2.png) [@taavi](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/taavi)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/64 "2024-10-07T19:53:20Z")

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[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/e/e096719102c360d5e20d6d7d99008c55eb860a9e.jpeg "KT foils with Kane De Wilde foil designer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffScEqdo3ic)

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**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:48am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/65 "2024-10-08T07:48:32Z")

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Love the shimming system and [explanation](https://youtu.be/ffScEqdo3ic?t=737) built into this system!

A few questions

1. Does it take into account rider weight?
2. Longer mast requires more shim? This maybe explains why he likes the shorter masts if so. I don’t quite understand this.
3. Baseplate shim is not part of the numerical system? Seems more for conditions or rider preference

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**Author:** ![Banjohead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@Banjohead](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Banjohead)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/66 "2024-10-08T17:24:12Z")

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To answer my own question thanks to this latest video:

Carbon mast chord: 125mm

Aluminum mast chord: ? (Looks thinner in the pics)

Weird that they don’t include this in the specs. Seems like a detail that is customers want to know. Are they embarrassed it’s \>120mm?! 🤣

@Matt I think the baseplate shim is to make sure users can get the desired angle of attack for their foil on a range of different boards. From what I understand some boards have more rocker than others, which can create drag/weird foot pressure due to the angle of the foil compared to the board.

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**Author:** ![robbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/97f17d/32.png) [@robbo](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/robbo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/67 "2024-10-08T20:22:39Z")

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I imagine, there will be other sizes but, the gap between 77 and 85 on the mast seems wide. I like to wing and do a few of the other disciplines and found 80-82 is just right. Ideally for me just owning one mast. I guess what I need to find out is if winging in bumpy conditions with a shorter mast is doable without breaching too often.

I really like the look of this gear, Im currently looking at moving away from current brand, since I am looking to replace all the parts anyway. This new KT gear is at the top of the list as a candidate to replace with.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/walter/32/108_2.png) [@walter](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-kt-foils-who-has-some-info/6382/68 "2024-10-19T07:42:39Z")

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[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/e/eecd9f0458f15378d79b4a3d9f7dfd782ad872b8.jpeg "ITW Kane De Wilde : his secrets in designing KT's foils for wingfoiliung & downwindfoiling") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgrnTVW0RL8)

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