# New Lithium Innovations (foil assist lounge) **URL:** \ **Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\ **Tags:** electricity\ **Created:** [August 12, 2026, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206 "2026-08-12T08:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Kurtis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ab992/32.png) [@Kurtis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Kurtis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/252 "2026-09-26T18:43:34Z")
And have to add the track box or board. Sevond 2p battery is another $3k us ---
**Author:** ![hwy1north](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@hwy1north](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/hwy1north)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/253 "2026-09-26T22:20:04Z")
As a prone foiler, I thought the Amp board concept was the way to go specifically as I was affraid of the prop. Once you accept the risk of the prop and learn to foil around the lineup on power, you’d never want the worst of the two product: a prop not shutting off immediately, and a heavy powered board that can’t stay on foil. ---
**Author:** ![Speedialer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Speedialer](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Speedialer)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2026, 8:45am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/254 "2026-09-27T08:45:24Z")
Thats was the idea but the amp concept does not appear to have caught on. I think its because the prop allows you to exploit non breaking waves much farther away from the lineup. In that context the prop feels safer than dealing with a sharp foil/stab in breaking waves and whitewater. Weight is not a factor between prop and jet because they both carry batteries and a motor - around 5kg over a prone setup. So, if you can take off on a wave with a prone setup why carry the extra weight of an amp system? People using props may pump a little to show they can, but they are largely motoring back out to get the next sets. In my spot we are motoring out 100-200 meters and pulling off the wave just before the surfer lineups. ---
**Author:** ![HFWS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ad7895/32.png) [@HFWS](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/HFWS)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/255 "2026-09-30T04:35:45Z")
I was told US orders for Riift will be shipped from within the US so no tariffs to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/256 "2026-09-30T04:47:26Z")
Shipping starts in December. ---
**Author:** ![Dontsink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@Dontsink](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Dontsink)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/257 "2026-09-30T16:47:10Z")
![1000220665](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/3X/a/d/ad0399abca19a15eb7262cf7837b6e166498d3de.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dylan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dylan/32/13189_2.png) [@Dylan](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Dylan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/258 "2026-09-30T17:02:02Z")
take my money! ---
**Author:** ![hwy1north](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@hwy1north](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/hwy1north)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/259 "2026-09-30T18:05:01Z")
I haven’t seen Paul walk out of his beach front house at the Malibu Colony yet…! ---
**Author:** ![Airsails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b19c9b/32.png) [@Airsails](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Airsails)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/260 "2026-09-30T19:12:05Z")
You would think if these assists could be developed, manufactured, distributed and supported could be done cheaper Riift would have come to market at a much lower price point and taken market share. But they didn’t, that tells me these assists won’t get cheaper in the future as that is what they need to cost to support a company, pay wages, rent etc. ---
**Author:** ![maxpwr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@maxpwr](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/maxpwr)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/261 "2026-10-01T05:41:34Z")
I wonder if we’ll see aftermarket options built to fit the rift boxes. ---
**Author:** ![Speedialer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Speedialer](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Speedialer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/262 "2026-10-01T18:41:09Z")
I think it’s going to be the opposite. Start with a Riift battery+Controller (where the added value is) and build/source/recycle the rest yourself including parts from Foil Drive. A Riift Drive! ---
**Author:** ![Highliner64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c57346/32.png) [@Highliner64](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Highliner64)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/263 "2026-10-01T18:46:20Z")
That is the US price in US dollars. Foildrive actually has product sitting in a distro warehouse in the US. Don’t believe the Riifters have done this yet. This means your rift product has to go through customs. ---
**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/264 "2026-10-01T20:46:19Z")
I saw that they are offering standalone batteries so I guess that answers that question for the people who want to have multiple batteries. ---
**Author:** ![maxpwr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@maxpwr](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/maxpwr)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/265 "2026-10-01T21:16:20Z")
The rest is cheap and easily sourced, the main cost is the battery/controller. ---
**Author:** ![Speedialer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Speedialer](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Speedialer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/266 "2026-10-01T21:42:15Z")
> [@Highliner64](#): > > That is the US price in US dollars. Foildrive actually has product sitting in a distro warehouse in the US. Don’t believe the Riifters have done this yet. This means your rift product has to go through customs. Prices are given in both US and Australian dollars. Foil Drive took a few years to set up their Americas/EU entities and would not expect Riift to have such an established network from the get go. In any case, we will always pay landing/logistics costs whether they are padded in the initial product cost or paid directly to customs later on. ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/267 "2026-10-02T11:59:29Z")
foil assist comp with riders riding Foil Drive, Riift, Duotone, Foil Dash and Manta. [https://www.instagram.com/p/Dd\_QGOIjk9f/](https://www.instagram.com/p/Dd_QGOIjk9f/) And the best foil assist is: ![CleanShot 2026-10-02 at 12.59.06](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/3X/4/3/434e8eabf26ff2cec0004c4900188b48c3129465.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![foilstate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilstate/32/1503_2.png) [@foilstate](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilstate)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/268 "2026-10-02T12:36:28Z")
The faster you go, the more inertia comes into play. A battery on the board at those speeds makes the setup much harder to roll over. Battery on body is the superior design if you can tolerate the electric cable leash (it gets old over time). ---
**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/269 "2026-10-02T15:47:21Z")
> [@Matt](#): > > And the best foil assist is: The one that pays the best prone foilers? I see a problem in your conclusion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![devonsurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@devonsurf](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/devonsurf)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/270 "2026-10-02T16:08:47Z")
Were you there to watch it? An epic day. ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206/271 "2026-10-02T16:32:47Z")
Haha I know this was pure bait, will have to see who wins the prone but Dukes leash broke in the assist [Previous page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/new-lithium-innovations-foil-assist-lounge/17206.md?page=14)