# Production Downwind Boards

**URL:** <https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121>\
**Category:** Downwind Foil\
**Created:** [December 12, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121 "2022-12-12T14:12:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/1 "2022-12-12T14:12:28Z")

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Seems like everyone is coming out with a production downwind board with a “barracuda inspired” tail (at least by the look of it). Here are a few that I know of, can others please add anything I’m missing:

Kalama Barracuda - OG  
FFB Dagger  
Amos Sultan  
Gong Cruzader  
DC Harpoon  
Fanatic Downwinder (not a barracuda tail)  
FOne Rocket SUP Downwind (not a barracuda tail)  
KT (2023 unreleased?)  
Axis (2023 unrealeased?)  
Armstrong (2023 unreleased?)

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**Author:** ![Seth.Anglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Seth.Anglin](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Seth.Anglin)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/2 "2022-12-12T15:41:14Z")

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I heard Appletree has one coming from TJ at Big Winds.

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**Author:** ![FoilFondler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilfondler/32/299_2.png) [@FoilFondler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilFondler)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/3 "2022-12-12T17:53:10Z")

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Sunova too, but idk how to get one in the states?

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**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/4 "2022-12-12T18:00:25Z")

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You can order them through Poseidon and they will be shipped straight to your house.

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**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/5 "2022-12-12T19:35:03Z")

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Here are some additions from the history

[AFS BlackBird](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gLnrTxSKsI)

[Fanatic Downwinder 2023](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_9Xga7L-Ow)

[52 Storm Glider](http://52foilboards.com/index.php/storm-glider/)

[KT Downwind](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxWrPctVp0U) (proto??)

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**Author:** ![allthefoils](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/allthefoils/32/180_2.png) [@allthefoils](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/allthefoils)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/6 "2022-12-13T12:35:38Z")

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Also Signature have the Pegasus v2 coming out

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**Author:** ![radair](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/radair/32/728_2.png) [@radair](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/radair)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/7 "2022-12-13T13:14:31Z")

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I received my 7’ FFB Dagger yesterday, such a beautiful board. I can’t wait to use it. I plan to wing and prone foil with it to sort out mast position before starting the DW struggle. Not sure of the goal of this thread but it seemed like it could use some pics.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/1X/ae4b39a992ec964f017501865c9dea2f2c8c2130.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/1X/18eed45a4ea337a3767c75f1adc59f493dd2bb9e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Velocicraptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Velocicraptor](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Velocicraptor)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/8 "2022-12-13T13:49:23Z")

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I was comparing dimensions and design characteristics between a few designs and the original intent was to see if there were others that I was missing.

My takeaway is that tail nuances, width and volume distribution are vastly different between the designs out there. Seems like the Barracuda design theory has changed the paradigm for downwind board design, but it’s going to take a couple generations to actually work through the details.

The Dagger looks amazing. That’s definitely one that I was studying and it’s a very clean implementation of the design characteristics (to the naked eye). I’ve got to think it’s a pretty tough board to learn on, but I could be wrong. keep us posted once you get going.

Also interesting to see some of these characteristics work their way into small wing boards. Wonder how well that application translates.

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**Author:** ![FoilFondler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilfondler/32/299_2.png) [@FoilFondler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilFondler)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/9 "2022-12-13T14:59:41Z")

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One ocean sports egg as well.

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**Author:** ![BigWinds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@BigWinds](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/BigWinds)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/10 "2022-12-14T19:35:37Z")

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We will have the Sunova’s AVIATOR DOWNWIND ELITE here at Big Winds, getting our first couple in a week or so to test out! Excited to get out on them.

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**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/11 "2022-12-15T22:40:15Z")

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Such a cool board, whats your weight, because you chose the 100L.

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**Author:** ![radair](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/radair/32/728_2.png) [@radair](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/radair)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/12 "2022-12-16T10:49:11Z")

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I’m about 145 lbs. I probably would have picked one of the two larger sizes but they sold out quickly. The 7’ model fits in my van better anyway!

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**Author:** ![Coldwaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Coldwaves](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Coldwaves)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/13 "2022-12-22T21:29:24Z")

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Ive seen Spacestick proto downwind boards up near Seattle  
Similar pintail and groove on the side rail  
And seems like the dedicated DW people are all on pintails

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**Author:** ![foilnews](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilnews/32/777_2.png) [@foilnews](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/foilnews)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/14 "2022-12-29T05:29:22Z")

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Adding PPC Link Board

> **[Link Board - PPC Foiling](https://ppcfoiling.com/product/link-board/)**
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> The Link, a fitting name for a board which allows riders to link the energy from the ocean & glide endlessly from an upwind point to a down wind point with only a paddle. A huge amount of design element...read more »

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/1X/8e652df3fed69f9f2ebc7668738a6e4f5db5c79d.jpeg "PPC Link Down Wind board") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpcz_WhCfjY)

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**Author:** ![O.Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@O.Wright](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/O.Wright)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/15 "2023-02-14T04:40:00Z")

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> [@Velocicraptor](#):
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> others please add anything I’m missing

They (NSP) just published this?

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/1X/f154a4f855b21b6ab05c13292d34c9cae1a7d3e4.jpeg "Christian talks about the Spitfire") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so_eSU3roxk)

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**Author:** ![O.Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@O.Wright](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/O.Wright)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/16 "2023-02-14T05:17:14Z")

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> [@foilnews](#):
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> Adding PPC Link Board

Interesting, wouldn’t mind seeing frontal profile to understand the shape. Is that a spine or graphic feature only?

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**Author:** ![beavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@beavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beavis)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/17 "2023-02-17T12:33:53Z")

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Big winds just posted pics of the KT downwind board on their facebook

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**Author:** ![OuterBombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@OuterBombie](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/OuterBombie)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/18 "2023-02-17T20:53:36Z")

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Interestingly the french direct brand Gong have just added two slightly wider models in their new Cruzader range, a 7’0" and 7’6" XL - with 21 and 22 inch widths, smart cookies 🙂 No delivery date on them yet.

[https://www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/gong-foil-board-cruzader-fsp-pro-2023/](https://www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/gong-foil-board-cruzader-fsp-pro-2023/)

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**Author:** ![FoilFondler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/foilfondler/32/299_2.png) [@FoilFondler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/FoilFondler)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/19 "2023-02-17T21:42:57Z")

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I thought it was interesting that the axis boards narrower as they get longer. almost like they have a fixed stability but it’s a spectrum between easier to catch waves and easier to ride.

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**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/production-downwind-boards/1121/20 "2023-03-06T17:47:52Z")

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Good review of the Amos Sultan here.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/d/d452a067a06bf85a0f555086317a3a688f6ceab2.jpeg "AMOS Sultan Downwind Foil Board Review") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkTqd6EAgJg)

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