# Read this before you buy or sell!

**URL:** https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562
**Category:** Buy and Sell Foil Gear
**Created:** [August 28, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562 "2026-08-28T18:18:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author: ![clayisland](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/clayisland/32/8061_2.png) [@clayisland](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/clayisland)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/41 "2026-09-05T02:32:39Z")

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FB is a monster and driven many a business under, I loathe their marketplace even though it works sometimes. If I have a problem I’ll never be able to contact zuckface for a resolution, I can and have been able to reach Erik.

I’m a big fan of a vouch or community based solution.

Ebay takes 12% so I avoid them as much as possible, and the early adopter “tax” is steep enough which makes selling gear quite the losing proposition.

At the end of the day I’m grateful forums like this are still around and I support whatever they need to keep going.

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### Author: ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2026, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/42 "2026-09-05T04:05:20Z")

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there is no way to prevent fraud. it happens in any marketplace. educate buyers/sellers instead on tools.

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### Author: ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/43 "2026-09-09T21:13:44Z")

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Ok, I think another thing that would help…New users tend to post their phone number (scammer bait) because they don’t have DM privileges yet. Limit their posting privelages in buy and sell as well! They can wait, have an IRL friend help, or buy retail!

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### Author: ![Wouzel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/wouzel/32/12510_2.png) [@Wouzel](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Wouzel)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/44 "2026-09-09T21:35:37Z")

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Or, go the other way. Allow them to DM but have a little message pop up “This user has less than 1 year on Progression Project. If you are doing a financial transaction with them make sure they have been properly vetted.”

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### Author: ![TooMuchEpoxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TooMuchEpoxy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/TooMuchEpoxy)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/45 "2026-09-09T23:37:25Z")

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Oho yeah, now that you say that open up DMs on day one (buyer scams are RARE) and maybe restrict posting new topics or new buy and sell topics for a year.

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### Author: ![Wouzel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/wouzel/32/12510_2.png) [@Wouzel](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Wouzel)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/46 "2026-09-10T00:59:20Z")

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Yep, I like where your heads at. Train the AI bot to delete any incorrectly categorized sale posts (or even better, allow the community to simply flag them and have active mods remove them). Posting a new buy/sell topic requires the buy/sell privilege, badge, whatever, earned after X number of posts on the forum or something.

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### Author: ![bumpz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8edcca/32.png) [@bumpz](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bumpz)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/47 "2026-09-12T15:00:53Z")

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### Author: ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2026, 5:58am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/read-this-before-you-buy-or-sell/17562/48 "2026-09-14T05:58:03Z")

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> [@bumpz](#):
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> I’ve been working on a solution to this problem for the past few months - it’s an item verification check that you can’t fake right before your post goes live. It asks for a live video of the item (has to be from your phone, and can’t upload) and motion sensor data to further verify that it’s not spoofed. It can catch things like taking a video of a foil from YouTube video review instead of a foil in front of you.
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> It’s not perfect and will send some for human review (like an admin dashboard for someone to approve or deny) if it’s not sure. If anyone wants to try it I actually have a demo up here: [https://itemverified.com](https://itemverified.com). Let me know if you can break it and I’ll keep improving it. @Erik I’m down to jump on a call too and I can show you how it works.
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> There’s quite a bit of data processing behind the scenes but I got the cost down to be workable. Could charge only $1 per post and it would cover it and some to help pay for the hosting cost of the forum. I would be willing to just do the integration work myself for free to get it all set up.
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> I’m thinking about ways to protect the seller side of the transaction too. Possibly buyer verification of some kind and steps the seller can take to protect the transaction. I think we can leverage some of the same technology to do this too. Let me know if anyone has ideas.
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> I’ve been more of a lurker myself so I’m maybe a good example of not having enough forum history to rely on that to tell if I’m legit as a buyer or seller, but hello from a fellow foil frother up in Bellingham, WA (although I’m writing this from hood river right now).

Lurking enough to get flagged by the AI mods haha. Here you go @Erik He even tagged you in ig.

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