# Unifoil Evolution **URL:** \ **Category:** Foils and Boards - Gear Talk\ **Created:** [September 13, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824 "2024-09-13T23:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/62 "2024-12-06T17:59:43Z")
I don’t think so. The 100 is almost 2” narrower and higher aspect than the 115. It’s kind of in its own category. Maybe it should be the ProVolution 100😂 ---
**Author:** ![Ajam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/ajam/32/2078_2.png) [@Ajam](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ajam)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/63 "2024-12-09T08:05:50Z")
> [@Rad\_Duke](#): > > And do these make the Prog100 obsolete? Probably make the whole Progression line obsolete. From the marketing it sounds like “better everything”. ---
**Author:** ![Fish13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8baadc/32.png) [@Fish13](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Fish13)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/64 "2024-12-10T10:04:05Z")
I use the progression 140 for my average 2 ft wave days and bought the 100 for head high plus days, I didn’t see the point in running the 140 and 125 . The 100 is awesome for bigger waves, no doubt about it , smooth through turbulence and has tons of speed, It will pump if you can exit a wave with plenty of speed and high on the mast(something I’m working on) ---
**Author:** ![mattllew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@mattllew](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/mattllew)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/65 "2024-12-10T19:44:38Z")
As has already been said the progression 100 is still the only foil near an 80cm span. Physics will dictate that nothing is making it obsolete in the evolution range… at least not for bigger waves, towing or winging. Winging is what I’ve used mine for. As unifoil is not a big winging brand it will go under the radar a bit, but it’s incredible. Much prefer it to some other wing foil heavy hitters I’ve used (f-one sk8, AFS pure v2 700 and gong ypra surf which is what the world champ uses). It takes off a bit earlier than those wings too despite it size so looking forward to proning it. ---
**Author:** ![CornishWaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@CornishWaves](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/CornishWaves)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/66 "2024-12-10T19:53:22Z")
Reading the replies / threads, I was set on the Progression 100 (even with its reduced pumpability) over the P125, but now there is the Evolution 115 which just may be the perfect companion for the Progression 140? Taking from bdavis above - E115 span of 873 vs P100 span of 824. ---
**Author:** ![Digitalove](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/digitalove/32/5767_2.png) [@Digitalove](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Digitalove)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/67 "2024-12-11T00:29:44Z")
I wish they just came out all at once ---
**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/68 "2024-12-11T01:06:36Z")
The info I got was that all but the biggest foils will be available at the beginning of the year. I’m hopeful but doubt that’s the case since there hasn’t been any mention of the other sizes from Uni or anyone else. Same goes for the new masts too. ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/69 "2024-12-16T13:49:01Z")
One key word that’s been excluded from all their recent marketing messages so far is “pump”. That’s my number one criteria for a prone wing. So interested to hear about that specifically… ---
**Author:** ![beepityboppityboop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/beepityboppityboop/32/6245_2.png) [@beepityboppityboop](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/beepityboppityboop)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/70 "2024-12-16T15:06:15Z")
At least Unifoil is honest with their marketing, and clearly explain what a wing excels at and trades off. Other brands… not as much. I would think the Evolution will pump great, either way. ---
**Author:** ![321-foiler](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/321-foiler/32/5370_2.png) [@321-foiler](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/321-foiler)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/71 "2024-12-16T16:50:11Z")
Anyone tracking the camber on the evolution? High camber is definitely a trend right now and seems to be a good trade off. ---
**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/72 "2024-12-16T18:02:13Z")
> [@dillionaire](#): > > …been excluded from all their recent marketing messages so far is “pump”. That’s… I thought that was strange too, but can you have glide without pump? Or maybe there’s so much glide that you don’t even need to pump😂 ---
**Author:** ![Washout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8baadc/32.png) [@Washout](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Washout)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/73 "2024-12-16T18:58:37Z")
Who needs to pump when there’s an integrated FD mast? 😄 It has the right specs for an efficient pump and it’s probably more technical/ less forgiving with the higher speed ranges. But it threw me off that they describe the Progressions as the reigning champ for pump efficiency. I bet they’re reserving some appeal with the P series for what the newcomers are focused on. ---
**Author:** ![bdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce7236/32.png) [@bdavis](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/bdavis)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/74 "2024-12-16T19:24:50Z")
I found that strange too. How could lower Aspect and less span be better for pumping? Hopefully there is some new innovation built into these foils… If not, UniFoil is about a year behind all of the other companies that came out with mid nine-ish foils ---
**Author:** ![Digitalove](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/digitalove/32/5767_2.png) [@Digitalove](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Digitalove)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/75 "2024-12-17T02:49:01Z")
I was surprised by this release. Figured a DW and surf line would come first. ---
**Author:** ![Meow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Meow](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Meow)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/76 "2024-12-17T03:05:17Z")
They must have taken a look at the code s and tried to make it comparable. I mean the biggest advertisement for code right now is mike pedigo, and Erik and Mike are like best mates so there must be some talk about how to make something as good as the code. I suspect the evolution with a similar AR is unis version. At some point there will be something better than code, not sure when or what it will be… ---
**Author:** ![Digitalove](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/digitalove/32/5767_2.png) [@Digitalove](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Digitalove)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/77 "2024-12-17T03:25:59Z")
I’ve ridden code S (850 and 720). it doesn’t surf anywhere near as good as the progs but definitely has the superior glide and great for DW surfing. ---
**Author:** ![Ajam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/ajam/32/2078_2.png) [@Ajam](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ajam)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/78 "2024-12-17T18:50:09Z")
> [@dillionaire](#): > > One key word that’s been excluded from all their recent marketing messages so far is “pump”. There was mention of “slightly” higher stall speed compared to Progression. But i can’t imagine they would not pump well. The Evo gets the biggest size too, and if there’s really a DW model coming, then thise large Evolutions must be aimed at pump foiling ![Screenshot_20241214_173627_Instagram](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/d/d76a93c905aae2e6802d6e4fd3b96c3db76603af.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20241214_173556_Instagram](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/e/efb9c2fac3ad3ce58460478a3b5d3a618f77c97c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/79 "2024-12-18T18:39:36Z")
I hope the evo235 has a lower stall speed than the 200p. I can’t wait to get more details about that wing ---
**Author:** ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/80 "2024-12-20T22:28:31Z")
update As an aside: Can someone explain how the AR numbers are calculated? span/cord ratio is not it. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/progressionproject/original/2X/8/82c348d56a3c913565a0b86bb570ab0810e4e667.png) ---
**Author:** ![jondrums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@jondrums](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/jondrums)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824/81 "2024-12-21T00:40:49Z")
**span squared divided by area** mind the units, need to do all in mm2/mm or cm2/cm So Evo135 with span of 914mm (= 91.4cm); area 870cm2 Aspect Ratio = 91.4 ^ 2 / 870 = 9.6 This is because Aspect Ratio = Span / Average Chord Average Chord = Area / Span Therefore Aspect Ratio = Span ^ 2 / Area The published “Chord” on that chart is actually “Maximum Chord”, which is why you can’t use it for aspect ratio calculation [Previous page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/unifoil-evolution/6824.md?page=5)