# What unifoil wing for Bay downwind conditions **URL:** \ **Category:** Downwind Foil\ **Created:** [May 26, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207 "2023-05-26T14:36:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frothy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@Frothy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Frothy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/1 "2023-05-26T14:36:18Z")
What Unifoil wing for downwind in bay conditions? Fetch is relatively short so waves are slow moving and weak, so looking for a foil with a low stall speed. What unifoil wing? Considering the Hyper 250 or hyper 210, does the progression 170 have similar stall speed to the larger Hypers? ---
**Author:** ![Hdip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hdip](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Hdip)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/2 "2023-05-26T15:29:34Z")
Hyper 250 or Progression 170 would be my uneducated guess. ---
**Author:** ![gregclosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@gregclosier](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/gregclosier)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/3 "2023-05-26T20:41:57Z")
It really depends on your weight and skills. I like the prog 170 for light dw bay run type but hyper2 210 and 250 are even easier. ---
**Author:** ![Frothy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@Frothy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Frothy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/4 "2023-05-27T00:47:05Z")
I’m 190lbs/86kg. Intermediate winger, beginner downwind foiler. You prefer the progression 170 to hyper in bay conditions because better turning or speed range? ---
**Author:** ![gregclosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@gregclosier](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/gregclosier)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 6:02am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/5 "2023-05-27T06:02:05Z")
Definetly 250 for beginner or intermediate. I like the Prog170 because of the glide. ---
**Author:** ![Frothy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@Frothy](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Frothy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/6 "2023-05-27T09:00:12Z")
Ok great 250 it is. Thanks for the advice 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Gonefoiling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/gonefoiling/32/14360_2.png) [@Gonefoiling](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Gonefoiling)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/7 "2024-08-19T21:02:46Z")
Could anyone with experience compare and contrast P200 vs. H2 210? ---
**Author:** ![Matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Matt](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Matt)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/8 "2024-08-20T07:54:31Z")
P200 seems a better fit, very slow. H2 is likely to need more speed than you are able to generate. Anecdotal evidence from a friend not managing on either but doing better on the 200, and my own experience finding the 200 easy enough after the axis 1300 ---
**Author:** ![dillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.progressionproject.com/dillionaire/32/2800_2.png) [@dillionaire](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/dillionaire)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/9 "2024-08-20T12:26:21Z")
How big is the difference between 1300 and 200 in initial lift and glide? I have been on both but 12 months difference between the two, so I forget ---
**Author:** ![laser166131](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@laser166131](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/laser166131)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/10 "2024-08-20T12:29:05Z")
200 significantly less, but isn’t on rails like the 1300 ---
**Author:** ![Ferg42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e19b73/32.png) [@Ferg42](https://forum.progressionproject.com/u/Ferg42)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.progressionproject.com/t/what-unifoil-wing-for-bay-downwind-conditions/2207/11 "2024-08-20T18:48:45Z")
I’ve been using a Prog 200 to learn to downwind. Find it an easy foil to use, very low stall speed, turns pretty well. Much easier to turn than a big very high aspect foil. Can’t comment on the Hyper 210 as I haven’t used it.