I’m really hoping the PPC lives up to the hype. We never get 15 knots here and I don’t have the fortitude to pump up wings.
Would you mind tossing out the sizes you feel this way about? I moved on from the v2’s as well but think some sizes are clearly better than others. 
2.4m & 3m. The 3.6m I was on the fence about. 4.3m feels fine. But I’m usually using the larger sizes in smoother wind.
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I haven’t ridden the V1 but the V2 packdown of the 5m was stupid easy compared to the 5.4m777 pt skin. Given the complaint of larger sizes 4.3 and up for packdown of the V1 Ozone, this improvement seems worth it in the larger sizes, especially for newer riders in lighter wind conditions. That said the 777 still packs down smaller and will redeploy if I pay attention to it. I think I’d prefer the V2 ozone for the yahoo wingers that would jybe on to the biggest swell that they see and flag out soon as possible. The stow and redeploy is more important here, but I could see the lost efficiency in longer upwind laps and windier conditions being more important in the long run since practice will improve stow/redeploy.
I have a 5.0 PR v.2 and it’s a great wing, douse is the best, stow is okay but a bit bulky. Upwind it matches my 4.3 777 Hybrid on VMG, though the hybrid is slower/higher and so probably a bit less tiring on long upwinds. Both get around 7+ knots vmg in the ocean (no current, big bumps). I haven’t tried the smaller sizes. One complaint might be that the LE is a bit heavy and so it wants to turn downwards coming out of handlepass and downloop jibes more than some of the lighter weight wings I’ve had.
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Got to feel the new Flysurfer POW v2 4m at the beach today. Very different feel vs. v1. Obviously short lines and the bridle set up is optmized for different things than the v1. Stashing felt better than v1 and even better than the Ozone Power Pack. A big change is that the battens extend to the back. They are way longer than in v1 and create spinal support. Seems a feature that creates stability. Very surprised that the tips have an Ozone PR v1 type batten as well. There is a transversal bridle as well which fuels the impression of lots of lines. The bar pressure is a lot different than the v1 which required you to hold the bar from the elbow or the curve of the J. The bar obviously a lot shorter and the bow line set up removes tangles. Hope to test it tomorrow on the water.
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I placed an order on kiteworld for the PR V2 4.3 (had the PR V1 4.3). Somehow I accidentally ordered the Power Pack instead. I was pretty bummed about that since it was not cost effective to return although they would have accepted it back as a return.
Low and behold, after reading this thread I am happy I made that mistake. I have both the 5.0m and 4.3m Power Pack and no complaints accept maybe not quite as good upwind. I can still go upwind pretty good though. They pack down easy, are well behaved and have good grunt. I’ll stick with them for awhile since it covers the wind ranges here in the Caribbean.
My son (15 years) has the POW 4m. He freakin rips on the thing. Flies upwind and after trying the Power Pack, he prefers the POW. There was some threading coming loose on one of the panels that he had to repair. I tried it out and it requires a lot more input. But my son seems to be near pro level now so he can provide that input and he is covering way more ground than I am out there. Big long runs with wing stashed then flying back upwind. Pretty much foiling circles around me. Proud dad but he makes me feel like a kook sometimes especially since we started this sport of wingfoiling together about 4 years ago and now we doing the wang thang.
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Honestly I’d much rather have the Power Pack, especially in the bigger sizes. It’s not that the PRv2 is bad, but I think the Power Pack is just a much more fun wing to fly, and in the large sizes the Pocket Rocket’s higher aspect means a longer wing that is more prone to catch or drag on the water and fall behind you. I find myself needing to actively manage the wing height as I fly by twisting the bar to keep it off the water, which I don’t need to do with the PP. As you mention, the PP goes upwind just fine in my experience. To be honest I can’t really tell a big difference when I get on the PR with regards to upwind angle. The PR is maybe a bit faster but I have never found myself on the PP and thinking that I am sacrificing upwind ability significantly. If there’s any downside to the PP it’s only that it’s so powerful that it gets overpowered pretty easily and can be a handful when really lit.
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I ride pocket rockets and have moved from v1 to v2. I use them for upwind and ride the bumps back. I ride with good parawingers sometimes on the power pack and I can tell you the upwind of the pp is terrible in comparison. I am not talking about little bit. The difference in speed and angle is stark.
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This thing looks great! Nova was already a well established paraglider brand when I first learned in 1991.
I have only the 3 m and 3.6 V2, now with several sessions on each in a variety of conditions. No way I would sell them. I find them overall better parawings than the V1’s (which I still have, and use). As I mentioned earlier, the 3 m occasionally moves around more than the V1 but ignore it and it goes away. This is also only in 2.4m conditions. I’ve been blown down and had to sit and wait with both the V1 and V2 3 m, at about the same wind speed.
That all said, I did buy a new V1 2.4 m based on this thread, and the fact that I loved the thing
Went back to the V1s. Can safely say that it wasn’t just fond memories, and I do much prefer the V1s over the V2.
Maybe I have long arms, but I think that the slightly more difficult packdown is totally worth the upwind & gust performance of the V1s.
If we’re talking about sailing performance, the spread is:
less performance <—PowerPack—PRv2—PRv1—Afterburner—> more performance
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You already tested the afterburner? Nice. How was it?
First go on the LTX yesterday and I really enjoyed it. I’ll need some time and sessions to fully evaluate it but I don’t see myself buying another pure single skin.
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Unfortunately haven’t tested yet, but spoken to a few people close to it! I’m hoping to get my hands on one to test in the next couple of weeks.
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I don’t have long arms but I think the v1 collapse is still really good. It’s the damn line tangles that kill it for me.
The PR v1 lines are the devil and no one will convince me otherwise 
You can’t just snatch and ride with the v1 for that reason as they will quickly tangle if left to flap around. Clearly others have mastered a quick stow technique to manage this but it was a non starter for me
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The PPC seems to be available now for preorder on their website, delivery late July.
Price is well into high earth orbit But they do offer 15% off first time purchases. Unfortunately, no close-up pics of the wing or bar so pretty hard to tell if they’re doing anything unique there.
Any more links to reviews on the flysurfer zap?
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Hmmm I seem to have lost the page where they show a closeup of the bar. I’d say it’s fairly unique from the way they have the clamcleat inbuilt into the rear, and you can change the wing shape via (what looks to be) the D cascade.
As for the wing, the inlets look more open on the front than the Paia. Also more closed off on the rear. Giving it a more traditional wing profile.
Saw some early protos of the Zap last year, looks very nice and much higher aspect than the Paia or the Orbit. A lot of lines when I saw it, but that might just be extra on the proto so they can test different configs.
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