What board sizes are people finding are working well for them? I think board choice is way more sensitive for foil drive prone surfing than other foiling disciplines. I’m almost 2 years into prone FD and still haven’t settled on my keeper board.
For me at 78kg I have a big board, 5’2 19.75 40L for DW and tricky surf spots. Having recently sold my small board as it was too wide I want another sub 5’ 30 to 35L board.
I remember somewhere that Dom Hoskyns said under 19” wide doesn’t work well with FD and short low litre boards. Not sure if this is true?
I realise you can chuck a big arse foil and get up on a tray but that doesn’t interest me. What size board (particularly for your weight) can you use a performance foil on in small to medium waves in fairly clean conditions?!?
I’m convinced litres don’t make a great deal of difference when there’s a wave to give you a boost but length and width does. Let’s assume a fairly flat rocker as most people realise foil drive doesn’t like banana rockers.
I’ve had a 4’2 19” 30L a good while ago and it was too small for my skill at the time, I’ve improved since but wouldn’t go this short as I don’t pump much and I feel this is the main benefit of very short boards. Also it Felt very twitchy with foot placement . Tricky onto foil
4’6 22” 35L too wide, easy onto foil
4’8 21” 29L (kite board, just felt wrong on foil and not surfy) Easy onto foil
Love to hear thoughts of board sizes which are working and sizes that haven’t worked.
ICSurf, your exactly right on board volume, it has little effect with regard to Foildrive and getting going. My current board is 4’4x18 and 12lts, gets my 80kgs fine on the plus system. The board is only 1” thick and provides a really direct feel to the foil as your back foot is so close to the mast plate.
Most Foildrive foilers could split their boards in half and still have no issue getting going at half the volume. But micro volume boards have a big drawback, they can’t be paddled so you can only go out as far as you willing to swim back.
Tail rocker is critical to getting to planing speed, if the tail is too small or rocker to large your going to be limited to big wings or wave assist to get going. I also really dislike narrow tails as your back foot toes end up hanging over the side of the board.
I’ve got a new board currently being built, 4’6x18x34lts, super flat rocker to get going on smaller wings and enough volume to paddle if things go pear shaped.
AIRSAILS, do you think 18” to 18.5”wide boards are more efficient than 19” and above boards for getting on foil with foil drive? Trying to decide at my 78kg
4’6 19” 35L
4’8 18.25” 38L
Any down sides for narrower? I guess more twitchy?
Any narrower than 18” and I have trouble with my back foot, my toes hang over the rail. I use larger wings in our bay slop so tend to place my back foot well offset to get the required leverage on the wing.
I guess if you were in proper surf you could use smaller wings and narrower boards due to being able to use wave assist to get going.
Picking a board that works well is hard, I’ve tried prone boards that look great but just push water and are difficult to get planing. Check the tail rocker of what ever board you are considering, it needs to be flatter with good water release for early planing.
Longer and narrower definitely better. Dont go shorter to go wider, find another brand if that is the deal with that lineup. And as said, avoid pintail designs or heavy tail rocker, you need something that will plane to launch small foils with the fd. Personally I wouldnt go much under about 5’6" long but I am a heavy weight.
3 sessions and 60 miles into my journey with 45L Portal https://www.portalflightdesigns.com/ and have to say I’m very happy! I’m 64kg and previously using a 36L board. The longer Portal gets up on foil with no boost needed. Flat bottom much better than previous boards concave.
Curious if anyone has tried with the 4’2" FFB Techno 2.0 @ 34.4L? I have that board for prone. Recently got a FD and realizing the only two boards I have that would work with it is that one mentioned above, and the one I am using currently which is an Infinity with no name or dimmensions on it. It’s about 5’4" is all I know, and I’m guessing somewhere between 50 and 60L. My DW 7ft 100L dragonfly wont work because of the step bottom and the large battery.
I’m considering picking up a cheap wing board locally, but curious what others think about that. My Infinity board seems to work, but there is just a lot of tail rocker and the deck is rounded which I don’t like. It looks and feels more like a shortboard and I have a feeling it was made long ago before people understood what makes a good foil board.
I have a 4’2 x 18 amundson nubby 33 liters I have tried it twice now with the fd and needed a wave to get going. I had trouble getting enough power on 680 foil. Even rolling swell proved challenging for me as I couldn’t quite balance myself up. May just need some more time. But I don’t like riding bigger foils at this point. For prone, fd, or winging.
It was great when up, but my 5’9 65 liter armie ml is my quiver killer do it all board. I can flat water the 680 no problem. I do prone it alor as well as it catches waves so easily.
But I am looking something I. The 5ft range at around 40 liters. 18 or 19 wide max.
Anyone have experience with zapple from apple tree ? I’m looking to get a foildrive in the spring and was thinking of that in a larger size like 54l to start. I can wing foil and surf
Hey buddy,
do you feel like the 12 litre board helps with more high performance foiling?
would a smaller tray board like something from axis better better? I believe the axis tray 94 is 3’1 feet x 18.1 inches wide.. they have a few more models with some more litres and width/length.
Alternatively unifoil has the FTW board which is 3’11x16.6x 2.2 at 23 litres.. im not too sure on if the narrowness is going to be an issue for me.
im trying to figure a board that would give me the best performance for prone foiling waves
The Zapple has a few downsides including battery mounting and swapping, and heavy weight.
There are a few trench boards with more appealing designs and specs.
Under a certain size, there are clear diminishing returns.
Going from 35 to 30 liters barely improves the ride, but clearly sucks much more battery.
If riding waves, 35-40L is a sweet spot. Going lower is the promise to have to back to the beach to swap battery before you even need a drink.
If you want to pump around in a lake, yes you can go much lower, anyway you will just be pumping and will be cooked before the battery.
The 12 ltr is fun but it is 4’6, any shorter and I can get going easily. Also if things go pear shaped your swimming, no way you can paddle in. I’m on a 25lts board for that reason now, something I can paddle back to shore if needed.
The current board is a trench but has no tracks, very thin, about 15mm between your back foot and the base unit. But even boards with tracks ore only 35-40mm in that area if they are a trench.
I’m on a 5’2, does everything well and I can used small wings and still get up on the flat or chop. I get about 35mins of upwind/downwind on a 877sqcm front wing with the max battery.
