How do I loosen up more? I look like an old man out there

Wow where is that? Baja? Hollister Ranch? Such a great setup

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Such dynamic extension of the body and legs during the turn is not such a great habit either. I think the wake can lock in bad habits that you can’t really do without crashing on a wave in the surf.

Not sure I agree with this…. so many rippers come from the wake world. Two I ride with all the time is Gordon Harrison and Guenther Oka. Both absolutely rip in the surf

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Keahi makes it look effortless. I think most people try to make it look like surfing a shortboard and end up having more problems with pitch control etc by hinging in too may places. The only problem is it looks too easy and it’s easy to miss that he is doing amazing turns without the massive inputs that most seem to have to make.

OP needs to loosen up their upper body, and wake isn’t going to address that specific thing, I don’t think.

But tbf it could help on loosening up the snappiness and foil control. My extensive experience surfing behind a boat is that it is it’s own thing and doing “surf turns” doesn’t work, you need to do a different approach entirely

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I definitely suffer from the same feelings watching myself surf or foil. With that nice of a wave it looks like you can get very experimental with wiggling and more aggressive turning and not have to worry about catching another. You’ll start to find that you can really push into turns and yaw a ton on a foil if you ride aggressively and not worry about crashing. There are so many dimensions of movement you can access on a foil, but until you try them and crash you don’t know where the limit is. Once you find the limit, you’re way more comfortable riding near it. Winging is helpful there because you can try all sorts of crazy movements and use the wing to recover or get back up quickly.

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2:50-3:50 in that wizard video could be used to sell code or armie ha foils right now. Especially 3:03. In fact, every time I see that I think about pulling my 1300 out again. User friendly is good.

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100% :joy: you can get the entire 1300 lol setup for $450.

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When I finally get my $10,000* Cedrus mast I’m going to put my $100 1300 on it. I bet it would be amazing actually.

*an exaggeration.

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I recently saw some footage of myself and also thought I was carving way harder than what it feels like. A 180° turn in weak waves takes me about four seconds to complete. I’ve started counting the seconds during the initiation of a turn so I have a cadence going and start speeding things up.

Beautiful spot you have there!
I like to feel the foil in terms of “breath” -
It seems you have the front leg way too forward - try letting the foil breath more by releasing some front foot pressure out of it -
And as everyone mentions - open up your chest and rotate it more with your hips too, and let the foil and legs follow you. Try some Keahi or KD relaxed-close feet stance so you feel more the balance of the foil itself and try to turn it just by leaning your weight to where you want to go and turn back - let it go fast and breach until you get the sweet spot - that foil seems to be the propper one for such a nice rolling wave- Also try to better read the power zones of the wave, after that you’ll see how pushing harder by properly leaning hard and flexing more the legs will feel better and with more confidence -
just my thoughts! You’re doing really good by the way, for only 5 months doing it

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Who cares what you look like or how fast you are going. I bet that wave felt incredible!
You need a bit more windup and drop your hips and lean the foil over while top turning. You should feel a solid push through your back foot and noticeable lift of the foil requiring you concentrate on keeping the foil burried through the cut back. Keep your head turned in the direction you are turning. Long figure 8’s with this technique will gain a ton of speed on that weak wave. Also practice taking the speed from the cut back and rolling over your wave and pumping to the next.

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Man o man I feel this. Watching yourself on video is humbling. It’s also the first step to realizing you have a “problem” (not really a problem, but aware that you want to do better).

I reiterate all the good advice above. And any advice I have is from someone who struggles similarly.

Do not rush to gear quick fixes, as you’ll likely end up doing the same on the new gear, just poorer.

Rotate those hips separate from your torso.

Concentrate on a quicker turn, not slowly steering through it. Think jetski not oil tanker.

Then once you turn faster, think about setting up the next turn quickly versus coasting. Work towards a seamless progression between turns, where you are always in motion. Think Figure 8s as training…then can build in variations once it’s set.

And yes, you need to take chances that inevitably cause more wipeouts. You won’t know where your line is until you cross it. That is hard, as it sucks to give up a wave, so we end up playing it safe and never progress.

Winging and wake allow for more “reps” without needing to paddle.

An interesting thing about surfing and foiling sports is that coaching is still not yet normalized. If you are not as good at golf as you want to be, getting lessons is the first thing you’d seek. There are options coming up … and if any are near you, that may be $ well spent.

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