I’m looking at getting a midlength board to graduate off my beginner board. Looking for something in the 85-95L range, as I wing on a gusty lake where you have to stand there in 5kts waiting for the next big gust for a minute or two at a time, so a sinker would be tough. I use a Lift HA120 and HA170 foils, and weigh 80kgs
I am looking at the KT Ginxu Super K 92L and the Fone Rocket Midlength 90L. Any opinions on these? Thanks.
With a (moderate) sinker you just wait for the gust standing waist deep, or sitting on the board.
If waterproof foam is desirable to you. Look at the Omen’s since they are apple tree collab’s.
I speak gusty lake wingfoiling…and I think you are on the right track. I don’t know those boards but length and a bit of extra volume can be your friend in getting onto foil faster/more easily in crappy conditions. (I DO want the Super K though)
I’m 64kg winging inland reservoirs and have a 72L Omen Flux and an 89L Appleskipper DW. I use the DW unless there is good and consistent power to be had, even though the Flux is a great board and more fun to ride…paddling the DW is also much easier when caught out after it dies or shifts.
A lot of folks really don’t understand how challenging/frustrating it is in places with crap wind (and no waves)…I go to some lengths to maximize my time on foil, precious as it is, and gear choice is a big part of that. People in the gorge say “64kg - you get to ride the really small stuff!”…um…not so much around here
I went from a 78L 4’10 North to a 95L SAB mid length torpedo 6’x22" and love it. Riding a SAB 909 and it sails beautifully, easy takeoff, easy to slog at 70K and a breeze in touch down jibes. Just got an 85L Duotone Skybrid but haven’t sailed it. Will probably only use the smaller board ( North)in hi wind .
5 knots sounds really challenging. Wouldn’t a legit, but small DW board be a better choice?
I wing inland lakes in the Midwest. We get a wide range of wind, rarely steady, but often strong. I’m 78kg and ride a 60L Omen Flux 100% of the time now. It floats me fine laying on it if I need to wait for a gust.
I was really surprised how much easier it was to get going coming from my 27" wide beginner board.
Where there are gusts I feel like getting on foil is easier, you just have to wait. I’ve found coastal areas with steady wind more difficult in super light wind.
I wing in a river down the street because it’s close by and keeps me wet. It’s typically not very good conditions but I was riding the 85L Armstrong downwind board and it was the ticket. Small enough to rip turns but big enough to stand on or at least kneel on during lulls. I think the DW style boards are great for that.
I highly recommend the Super K. I’ve been using it since June in all sorts of conditions from super flat light wind (10kts) to mega choppy messy and riding small waves and I love it. You get used to the smaller width very quickly. I’ve got the 80L one for 85kgs. I wonder if you would be ok on that volume too, you might end up keeping it longer! but defo a good choice of board.
I’d go super K.
FYI, standing in 5 knots will be tough, but you could sit or kneel and then know you have a board that will take off as well as a downwind board with good pumping skills. The main bennefit of the downwind board is the early board speed that will get your high aspect foil lifting, so you can ride smaller wings and foils. The Super K is a compromise of shorter board and board speed. If you are less fit, your lake is not typically over say 15 knots of wind and is flat, you may not see much of an advantage over a wider shape imo, due to the difficulty of balancing on a board of 6’ length. The advantage of a good downwind shape is that it gets you going super early and the narrow nose isn’t too much of a hindrance in higher wind like that of a blunt nose wide board. So maybe Super K for good days, keep wide board for need to get wet days, or a good downwind board for everyday in 5-20 knots?
Thanks for the input! Sounds like the Super K is well loved and known. Not a lot of info on the F one, as it is a little newer, so not as many opinions out there.
I’m thinking of dropping size to the 80L, which equals my 80kg body weight. Should be a little more fun and less likely to outgrow, and dropping to knees to wait for the next gust shouldn’t be a big deal.
Thanks for everyone’s input!
If you are willing to increase the foil size on super light wind days, and don’t mind waiting for a gust, I think it’s pretty OK to go with a 80 L Super K. The smaller Super K sizes are snappier, but other than that the riding feel is quite similar. I haven’t tried the biggest size 104 L.
To give you a few examples, I am 72 kg and here are two lighter wind days (with some gusts) with a 4.6 m2 wing and a big but fast 1227 cm2 foil.
First clip is with a 92 L, and the second one with a 60 L Super K. Same foil.
And the third clip is with a 60 L, which for me is the board I use the most (with either 631 or 850 cm2 foil). If I’d have to keep just one board, I would use the 70 L for my weight.
