Production Downwind Boards

17” longer? Length makes a huge difference. Going from a 7’5” to a 7’10” with 5 more liters and I felt a big difference.

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I will say that at 63kg I have a hell of a hard time stand up paddling my 100L 7’ x 19" KT. I don’t care for SUPing and am trying to force myself to learn so I can eventually DW but I end up ditching the paddle asap and going prone unless I really force myself to train with the paddle. If SUP paddling was a priority I would definitely want something more stable.

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I like the look of these boards. It sucks a lot of these designs are out of Australia and shipping to the states is such a pain.

Crazy that the 105L is only 16” wide.

Adding to the list the Amos Bullet

Josh Ku version below from his video. Incredibly thick!

Maybe new V2 Kalama Barracuda

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Hey. I live in Santa Cruz and was looking to buy the dragonfly 105L you mentioned. I am planning to mostly go light wind winging and prone surfing, my weight is about 175 lbs. I might try DW if I can find a ride back :slight_smile: Is the 105L big enough or should I go for the 110L? Thanks a lot for your help!

Hey man, I am your exact weight and have been downwinding the 7’4" 105L Dragonfly in pretty light FL bumps. I use the Uni prog 170/200, mostly the 200, but had best successes on 170 when its a bit more quality bumps.

Id say if your pretty dedicated to putting in the hours on the DW standup its totally doable and a great all around size if you want to wing it too. Its an awesome size to SUP in the surf too.

If your completely focused on DW standup I’d maybe go a size bigger just to make it that much easier, on some marginal days I take a bit longer to pop up and wish I had like an 8’x19" or something, but itd be a little worse of for winging/waves.

curious if you guys tried other boards, and why you chose the Dragonfly…I’m trying my best to hold off until the new crop is out this spring, looking for a smaller DW (or larger mid-length) in the 80-85L range (I’m 64kg) mostly for light wind winging, and the Dragonfly makes that list, among a few others that are available now…

I tried the Armstrong 7’2 and a barracuda before the KT. Armstrong is more stable than the KT but slower to get off the water. the Cudas, are more stable and easier to pop up than the KT. The KT feels the best when on foil.

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Just a thought on the recent crop of hybrid crossovers eg Cabrinha Swift after having tried a few of these - a hybrid crossover downwind board is going to work well for everything EXCEPT sup downwind… sad reality is that it compromises the only things that matter - lots of volume and length. The hybrids are all impossible to use to learn sup downwind. My impression. The only exception is if you already are a very strong sup paddler.

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Thank you so much!!!

Hey Marcelo, I have a couple of DW boards and a hybrid type wing board you can try out. As others have said, you probably want a real 8’+ DW board for SUP DW but a shorter one like the KT would be fine for lightwind winging and surf SUP. I’ve been SUP foiling cowells and davenport on my 8’ DW boards and it’s good fun especially when waves are just rolling or bigger. You just have to put in some time to get the balance going… Expect some shocker sessions :rofl:

-Jonah

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I wanted clarify my comment on crossover, but maybe some more details just to avoid confusion: what inspired the comment was my hope to be able to have one board do it all. I had custom SPG made - at around 90-95L it is well within the realm of reasonable for my 70kg, and I had hoped to be able to wing, and sup DW with the same board.

The outcome - excellent for winging, very fun for gutless prone, great for sup DW, but the issue is I struggle to get faster foils going in poor conditions. In ideal conditions it is excellent, and with a big slow pump foil it is effortless. In suboptimal conditions or with a faster foil, it doesn’t quite cover it. I should have gone 10-15L more, and maybe 6" longer.

So my 2c, if you are at all serious about SUP dw then go for the extra volume and length.

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Thanks a lot! Let me know the next time you go. I am used to shocker sessions :wink:

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Can you explain this? I’m not sure why any of these would feel significantly different when on foil

Not sure. track position, thickness, board shape, weight are all different and I thought the KT rode the best on foil.

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How’s the board holding up durability wise? I know these are pretty light boards so just curious if that makes them more fragile than some of the other production boards.

Possibly the variable deck concave which gets steeper facing forward towards the tail. :face_with_monocle:

2024 Armstrong DW range:

Performance Specs

*98L: 8’2 / 249cm x 16 3/4" / 42.6cm x 5 7/8” 14.9cm

*108L: 8’11 / 272cm x 17 1/4” / 43.8cm x 5 7/8” / 14.9cm

*118L: 9’6 / 289cm x 17 1/4" / 43.8cm x 5 7/8” / 14.9cm

https://www.armstrongfoils.com/downwind-performance-board/

https://www.armstrongfoils.com/downwind-board/

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