I like the look of the Cruzader, but have only seen footage of the Gong team using it in the surf, no DW or flatwater. That said, I like all the Gong kit I have bought and don’t imagine this would be any different.
In terms of the shape, the thing that sticks out for me is how thick they are. The 7’0 is 7 1/4 inches. I guess higher volume in a narrow package (19 5/16).
Another option as you are UK based would be to get Swift Foils guys to make you one. I’m sure more expensive than the Gong but they appear to have got the downwind bug and I like the look of their boards.
Friend is getting an Axis hybrid in Bude, he also DIY’d a similar shape and we are going through the motions here. Probably viable for you to drop by and check it all out. We are waiting for the swell to die a bit so we can venture out into the bumps.
If you haven’t ridden the 1099 then I would suggest something else as it is very unforgiving on the low end. 1300 is suggested for axis but it’s quite a thing to turn. We have both those among the crew and they are worlds apart, but 1099 probably where you would progress to not start with. Tail seemingly bigger better, 400+ progressive seems to be advised.
Swift crew are probably a great bet in that they have experience and boards to set you up with something based more closely on what would work best for you.
Agree that Gong looks cool but I really dislike the idea of 7” thick. Would be keen to try it though as I have a gong prone board and it’s great value.
I would only add that I consider 122 lts being in the almost too many liters range for you if you are already experienced in SUP. How small you can handle a SUP surf or SUP foil ?
Going too big for me presents a challenge on being to able to control the board in choppy moving waters (imagine going too big in a SUP Race board, it presents it’s own challenges in controling the board IMHO).
I’m 70kgs and went right away to only 88-90 lts, If you’re an experienced paddler, I would go for around 105-110 on your weight.
Hi @OmarFoilCol I ride a 105L sup but have never sup foil surfed - 95L was too small for me in UK chop. Going for 105-110 seams like good advice especiallly as the foil stablises everything. I guess it is a balance between taking longer to learn and the want to have a small board under your feet.
Perhaps more corky? I haven’t tried a board over 6 inches thick for any kind of foiling so I can’t say from experience.
I mentioned it because it is thicker than any other DW boards I’ve seen but I’m not in a position to say whether it is good or bad. Patrice from Gong has been making SUPs for decades and they make the Cruzader look fun in the surf. I t would be interesting to get some feedback from outside the Gong team who has tried it.
You should have a lot of fun in South Devon. I’ve surfed at Bantham but not foiled there yet and it looks like an epic setup. The Generic Foiling podcast with the guy from Kite Barn where they talk about Bantham is worth a listen.
I think a 7 foot by 23” is a good place for people to start. With enough volume for body weight in kg plus 20-30litres. The Sunova elite range in the 7foot plus are really stable and work great. Possibly hard to get in the UK. Swift foiling look like they make a great product, and hopefully they are putting in some R&D time to their downwind boards.
If you go too skinny you might have to break out the hand paddles or work on balance and technique for longer before getting your supping sea legs.
In the axis foil range I think the 1300 and then maybe 1050 would be a good place to start the journey.
Definitely agree with what most have said and would not start with the 1099.
Takes more to get it going and a different technique. Doesn’t like to be pumped up like large foils. Likes more of a wiggle or it drops out.
Gear coming out now will make it remarkably easier to learn to DW. Longer narrower boards and XL foils. Don’t opt for gear that is going to make you struggle like many of us have over the years because we didn’t have these gear choices.
Make it as easy on yourself as you can because regardless there will still be a struggle. Stick with it and good luck!!
@Edward Yes Bantham is my local break. Hoping to find other local foil surfers to down wind with when I get back to the UK. The Generic Foiling Podcast is great - I wasn’t aware of this one so is a great link - thanks. I have already listened to almost all the Progression Podcasts!