Trash-Bag Brands (parawing main thread)

I’m curious to know if the Gong Neutra and Plus both use the same fabric, as the Plus fabric is very heavy compared to the D-Wing’s 32 g fabric, too heavy to use in a 5m IMO.

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The X-Foils Podcast: Case #35 –V2 Parawing Breakdown with Greg from BRM

Greg from Board Riding Maui (BRM) is back, and he’s brought some serious new heat with him—the BRM Parawing V2 is here, and not just one, but three different models tailored for various riders and disciplines.

In this episode, we get a full download on the design intent behind each wing, from surf-focused minimalism to power and stability for different styles of foiling. We may or may not be selfishly trying to figure out which one we should be riding…

If you’re even remotely interested in foiling without a paddle, surfing waves freely, or just sailing around, this is the one to listen to. We dig into everything from Greg’s R&D process to what makes these new wings sail!

Big innovations. Big fun. Same BRM magic

:headphone: Tune in and find your wing.

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For what it’s worth the Flow D-Wings are also nylon, according to the import documents.

Having owned both the Flow D and BRM Maliko, the BRM packs into a much smaller package than the Flow.

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What is the one liner on each of the parawings launched so far?

Anyone have any homemade parawings? I know this probably isn’t going to work and it’s a waste of time but I’m tempted to try to use an old trainer kite to save 800$. Will I get frustrated and end up buying a real one? Yes most likely. But would love to hear if anyone has any success?

I tried and it was a complete waste of time. Tried pretty hard too, some things here. Honestly this was before the BRM v1 and I realised it was a deadend, today I’d not waste a second unless you want to actually make these commercially.

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It seems like something diy should work for those high-wind downwinding days like we get in the gorge. I happily purchased a pw for upwind-downwind that benefits from design and testing, but it seems over-engineered for that use case.

Surely someone will farm social media likes this summer going out with an actual trash bag (perhaps with some strategic modifications) if that hasn’t happened already.

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A home-made parawing project from France, now in version 5.

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I tried a 2m fixed bridal trainer kite and it was terrible as it just wanted to race towards the edge of the wind window and couldn’t generate any power.

Here’s my gist:

  • BRM: Minimum size, thoughtful range, most community-support (e.g. FAQ’s)
  • Flow: The most proven all-rounder (upwind, downwind), and brainless to fly
  • Pocket-Rocket: High aspect and refined (shape, bar, lines) - most reminiscent of a kite.

Note: I’ve haven’t tried the v2 BRM’s yet in the water, but they look great. v1 I found pretty easy to fly, but the luffing when depowered to be a bit unnerving.

For shoppers, I don’t think you can go wrong with any of these! All of them are packable enough at 4M and below to be a non issue — all have plenty of power to pop up, and all of them have had enough demonstration in the market to be credible.

For folks that haven’t yet had much PW experience - don’t put too much weight into some of the finer points. For example, the slightly lighter weight cloth of the BRM matters less and less for Maui and Gorge riders on 2.0M-3.0M wings as the bridles become about as large as the collapsed canopy. Color coding helps, but the twists become more obvious as you come up with a sorting out game-plan. Higher aspect wings might point a bit higher, but even the Flow absolutely crushes upwind with a harness. So stay flexible based on size availability, your country and associated tariffs etc … don’t wait 3 seasons for the technology to get mature enough - just grab a wing and jump in.

All that aside - Ozone is hands down the best belt/hook combo, but even that one still needs improvement in terms of stronger elastic for the harness webbing. Flow and BRM’s gen-1 belts are nearly identical and both problematic with the stiff plastic liner, and bridle-grabbing rear toggles.

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Had two sessions on the ozone pocket rocket so far and I’m ready to declare that winging is over :smiling_face_with_tear: Used to foil the flysurfer peak and this feels right at home, easy to get into with winging experience, and getting going on my lift 90 ha with a healthy gust, loving it and looking forward to getting better and taking it into some waves

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Feel the same. used the Ozone PR 3m and 3.6m. amazing wings. got the 4m Flysurfer POW and not sure there is any reason to wing any longer. the experience of parawinging is so much better.

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Yeah! Can you compare the PR and POW? Haven’t seen a lot of info about the POW yet.

PR: lighter material, better pack down, less bar pressure, technical

POW: more POWer, easier to use, longer lines, light wind

Absolutely love my POW but PR is amazing. cant say enough about how great PR is. cant really go wrong with either. both are stable high quality products that go fantastic upwind.

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Sinker how to, I wonder about straps making the sink start easier. Looks worth learning

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For me the only time I will consider winging again is when it’s 8-10 knots, once it’s a steady 10 and up it’s parawing all day.

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What sizes are liking and wind speed?

What weight and gear allows you to Parawing in 10knots?