Hard to say yet but anticipating that 4.3 will be my daily driver at Crissy, and I expect you could drop down maybe 2 sizes for same conditions 
LMK if youāre here and you can try it!
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Interesting sifting through the mixed responsesā¦lots of stoke and talk of ditching wingsā¦others complaining about narrow wind range, handling in overpowered conditions and upwind performanceā¦still others sticking with their hard won paddling skills.
Sounds about right, and highly context dependentā¦not hearing so much stoke from average joes mowing the lawn on flatwater, which seems to be a foiling market staple not necessarily well represented here
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Iām 75 kg and use a 1 board quiver 5ā8" x 19" at 85L.
I was using the Axis 1300v2 and highly recommend it for parawing.
Iāve now switched to my Axis 1401 which is quite a bit harder to master and a good bit more technical to pump up. I probably need 0.5 knots more wind for the 1401.
Iām planning to swap to my Atlas 1340 when it finally arrives.
Keep in mind that at 10 knots my upwind angles are not good on the 4.2m D-Wing. Sub 20Ā°, so itās less fun. Once itās 11-12 knots that goes up to 20-25Ā° quickly.
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I participated in a group chat with Greg along with 5 other BRM customers. One guy was a lawn mower and he was really stoked on the parawing. Thought Iād chime in on his behalf.
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I do a lot of flat water riding and have been really enjoying the v1 BRMs on flat water as a way to practice handling and popups in preparation for good gorge days. It may just be the novelty of it since itās new, but I really do enjoy the feel of them on the water and the fact that I donāt have to inflate anything. The payoff when I get to PW downwind is always in the back of my mind on flat water days so that also contributes to the stoke. I only pack my PWs and a 7M handwing now when I foil. Overall just really enjoy them!!
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Iām mostly done winging at this point. The freedom of movement I get from the PW versus the wing is notable, especially on toeside tack. I donāt mind mowing it. I find it much more efficient and entertaining than mowing on a huge inflatable. My maliko is so light and minimalist it hangs in the light wind way longer than an inflatable does.
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I personally havenāt inflated a wing since getting my flows - outside of racing, foiling breaking waves, and really low wind - itās just better in every way. No shuttle downwind riding, super fast setup and tear down for winging.
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It is pretty amazing how well this has landed in year 2. Crazy to think of the market dynamics. Any brands conspicuously sitting without a parawing and missing out on all this transitioned spend? Looks like Ozone takes the volume cake from my perspective.
(also nice to have a conclusive answer to this old thread)
Some big sellers of wings without a parawing that come to mind:
Core, Armstrong, Cabrinha, Airrush, Slingshot.
Also wondering when the next gen Pocket Wing will come out from FiveO.
Maybe better to look at the paraglider companies that havent jumped in.
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slingshot pwing protos floating around hood
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My impression would be that Armstrong is the only big āmissā of that list considering their positioning as a top DW / Ocean brand
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Five-O has got a run of the v2ās coming. They are sticking to the 2 handle system.
Slingshots parawings will be available for testing through their demo center this summer which is pretty cool.
Where is the demo centre for Slingshot?
When I get my Pocket Rockets and have them all sorted Iāll add them to the Gear Library so people can check those out if they want.
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Ozone or Flysurfer POW? Like the price on the POW, and performance seems to be decent (from what āreviewsā Iāve seen/read). Any non-affiliated opinions whoāve tried each?
Tried both. they are both excellent. you wonāt regret buying either. POW has the low end. upwind is pretty equal. PR is easier to stash given thinner material. both are stable and fly well. I got the POW but really loved the 3m PR and initially ordered the PR but then changed my mind and decided to give the POW a go. now i want a smaller POW since they really pack a punch.
Frigate might be a good compromise option.
What size POW did you get? Whatās it usuable range? Considering POW and Frigate and would prefer to stay under 4mĀ²
4m. 14 knotsā>
havent yet found the top end where it collapses but the guidance from their website is a range of 14-22 which is probably a good reference. i suspect you can go lower but havent yet had enough sessions to truly push the low end but so far no problems taking off. easy
my working theory is that thrash bags optimal range is 3-4m perhaps a bit like with regular wings
Which PW has best low end with upwind ability on the low end? My biggest is currently 5.1 Maliko , can get going early (12mph or so) with DW board with bump assistance but canāt make enough progress upwind in light wind
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Gotta be POW
Frigate might be similar or close
Dont know how it stacks up in comparison but D-wing perhaps