I honestly have no insider knowledge about surf foils in development. But seeing how Unifoil is a surf-first company, I’m sure they’ll be really good.
Thanks for the review.
You compare it to the 140.
How would you compare it to the 125 (which is faster, more nimble but has a higher stall speed than the 140)?
I see my money will soon have a new home
I wouldn’t call it a review, more of a first impression. I had too limited of time on it in too perfect of conditions (Hood River) to review it really.
Regarding the 125. it’s really a completely different foil compared to the 140 IMHO and didn’t ride the 125 in Hood so it’s really hard to compare. I’ll definitely be making a real review once I get more time on the Evo’s
I pretty sure this isn’t the evolution. It may be the chopped progression 125 Eric runs, but I’m not sure.
I’m surprised the A/R isn’t higher? I was expecting 11ish
I haven’t seen the profile of it yet but the chord figures are surprisingly thin so it has to be a pretty straight wing. When you look at something like the Lift 150 that’s more triangle shaped, depending on how they calculate it, I think the AR figure as it relates to drag and glide could be a little skewed because of the variable geometry.
Yeah for something triangle shaped I think the slow, long chord parts do more damage than the thin parts help so they, on paper, perform worse than the AR where as a more square wing is better on paper maybe
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCLbYlWRDSp/
Looks super similar to Progression 125. Curious if anyone is strongly planning on buying this? Personally not since the span is wider than Progressions, but maybe downwinder people considering this?
I’m replacing my 170 with the 155 and plan to figure out the 140/135 situation later. The Evo’s don’t seem to have the gullwing profile thats unique to the 125 but it looks like there’s more anhedral than the Progressions which should make it roll better despite the higher AR.
That move makes sense. Maybe even going from a 140 to the 135 would be good but if you’re already on the 125, I don’t see either being an improvement.
If I were to bet, I would say that there is a 110-120 Evolution in the works that would be a step up from the 125.
Supposedly there are downwind specific foils in the works?
I don’t own a 125 but I do have a 140 and plan on getting the 135 after I get used to the 155 And it’s worth remembering that HA doesn’t necessarily mean more speed, but more glide. I’m clearly geeking out over the Evo’s but going off the M.O. of the Progressions, I’m expecting a little more speed and a lot more glide.
So far the marketing doesn’t seem that interesting to me. My only takeaway is it’s for more advanced prone riders than the progression. As an advanced rider, I’m not looking for more technical foils.
I would buy under two scenarios: 1.) flat water pump duration is improved over 170, with similar maneuverability. 2.) equal pumping to 170, better speed range and better maneuverability.
The 170/140 are so magical for me at 200lbs in FL surf, it’s hard to imagine any foil being better for what I want out of a wing.
Its a confusing release based on the specs and that video being so similar looking because I imagine most Unifoil riders have really been craving major gaps filled - a downwind wing or a pure surf wing with lower spans for steep faces while the Progression is like a great all around “groveler” type of wing.
The marketing about it being an advanced prone wing, but having a higher wingspan means it is physically impossible for the wing to roll steeper at the similar sizes of 125 and 140. So it’s kind of contradictory but I guess it depends on your definition of “advanced” riding. Yaw axis sure it could pivot easier, and Im assuming thats what they are talking about when they say it turns so much better.
I don’t think there’s going to be an issue with the wingspan when you compare them to the hottest “high AR surfing” foils on the market right now. Anhedral instability makes up for wingspan stability anyway.
Foil, Wingspan/AR
Armstrong 980, 97.4cm/9.68
Code 980S, 96.5cm/9.5
Uni Evo 155 (1000), 98.2cm/9.6
Armstrong 880, 92.3cm/9.68
Code 850S, 90cm/9.5
Uni Evo 135 (870), 91.4cm/9.6
It is odd that most brands have anhedral in the center of the wingspan where Uni has it out on the wingtips. They could have the same end result but Uni’s design makes sense by maximizing the lifting section close to the mast and giving the anhedral more leverage out on the tips where you want less wing loading for better breaches. We’ll get to find out in the next few weeks.
Yes! It’s called the AFS Silk.. Seriously, I own the Progressions and Vypers. Neither model was getting it done for me in powered surf. The Silks did the trick.
My understanding with that(the mustache shape), is that you want the tips to breach as far from parallel to the water’s surface as practicable.