Starting a thread for Foil Drive Integrated Masts as multiple brands are releasing them now and soon.
I’m talking about the truly integrated (molded) masts, not the first round of them which was basically a fat pod with hidden wiring.
My questions are:
What is the motor position of each brand’s offering?
How is motor position measured? Is it consistent across brands? What does 15cm mean exactly? Is it distance from pod to base or board or equivalent distance of 15cm motor cable?
What is included with these masts? do you need a motor? what type of motor is compatible?
What are the benefits of the integrated motor? I have heard quite a few different things here
I heard they’re amazing. Axis available for preorder now. Code I heard should be December
Does anyone have info on a potential release window on the unifoil integrated mast? I’m debating pulling the trigger on axis just to get one sooner, but would love to stick with uni if it’s releasing soon.
These masts are produced by each brands and sold/distributed independently from Foildrive.
So there may not be standard mesurement.
But to me it would makes sense that the mesurement is from baseplate to middle of the pod.
For refference a 12cm FD cable means the pod’s center sits at 13.5 cm from the unit.
For the advantages:
slightly faster take off (barely perceptible)
much better motoring and touchdowns (this one is obvious).
You can now pump out of a touchdown even when the pod was submerged. Harder with the FD og pod.
I’ve experienced it with my own Code using an after market streamlined pod (see below).
It will be much better with the integrated cable.
Brands will offer: 17cm/15cm and 11cm from what I have seen.
From my testing if you are not on a trench, the 15/17cm is much better to be able to mitigate the drag of the base unit and keep the prop in the water. 11cm with non trench was a lot to handle due to the drag of the unit. Did not make sense
If you are on a trench, you are able to get away with the shorter configuration as it allows you to ride the board and motor still in the water with not drag / compensation problems.
So when you get the integrated mast, they are all made for HP motor.
You will need SKU: 255 Integrated mast high power motor. Comes complete with motor, rotor, 3 blade hub, 3 blades as a standard. Just plug it in and away you go!
The benefit is that it’s all build in one piece, making for a better connection, no slipping of the pod, and more seamless pod dipping.
If you already have a a dedicated mast, and unit, and HP motor. This might not be ideal as an added expense enless you really see the added benefit or unhappy with the pod drag and tape, etc.
if you are buying a unit new, and you can get all the components you need as you need them. Then the added cost is not significant. I would say 95% of my clients buy an additional mast for Foildrive already. So add it up.
Brands that will have this that I know of, North, Code, Armstrong ( they may have an efoil high pod as well?), axis, AK and maybe unifoil.
Most are set for mid December delivery. With limited quantity runs.
Some are going to be sold by the brand themself, some are going to be sold from Foildrive
When I have positioned my prop at 11cm, its great until theres any chop and then I ventilate the prop too much. Have you found the same or is there a skill factor here?
Do you know what 11/15/17cm means exactly? What is the distance measuring?
Sounds like we wont be able to use our existing HP Motor and will need to purchase a specific one. Hopefully we dont need to re buy all those redundant parts.
Wait what mast do you have? I was under the impression that all these new integrated masts work with the existing hp motor. Isn’t it the same mount basically? On axis website I don’t see any mention of needing a specific motor for their integrated mast. I’d think as long as it’s gen 2 with the removable plug it’d work.
They do have a special SKU for the Integrated mast, comes with 3 blade, and no cable or puke.
however, the HP motor that you already may have, is compatible with the integrated mast.
You just need to remove the puke and cable.
My code ( still not production) says 17cm
From base plate to the motor pod it measures 6” ( 15.24cm) to the
So 17cm to the center of the pod.
when you get a cable, and it says 6” or what ever it is, sits different on different users masts.
Depends where the mast sits on the FD unit, as there is a bit of play there, and how tight the cable sits against the mast. I’m sure every user has slight differences distances in the same length cable for a non integrated mast.
Would you mind measuring the length of the code integrated pod mast please?
Axis list their versions at 80cm. I saw an interview with Josh Ku where he says the 75cm is generally his favorite, so wondering what length Code decided on the foildrive version. Thanks for the pre official release details!
Its not 75! this is not a final, its sitting at about 78-80cm.
i have a long list for pre-orders if you want to get on my list happy to help. or if you have any questions. 787-644-1239 whats app me.
