Help with axis art pro 1201 tip breach

I’m hoping I could get some help with an issue I’m having with the axis art pro 1201.

Loving the wing it’s amazing great glide, love the pumping. It’s everything I’ve wanted except for one issue.

If I’m not careful on a wave I’ll pop a tip out. 9/10 times down I go. Not because I lose lift but because the board straightens out on me and I’m still leaning into the turn. Ive gotten so I can hear it happen and hold on for 10 yards or so but still fall.

To be clear I’m not breaching a tip in a tight turn it’s kind of happens in either chop or when the wave peaks up before it breaks.

I’m on a 75cm mast so I’m thinking maybe 82cm. But I’m really curious if this is a recoverable situation or not.

I have the same wing for pumpfoiling/wingfoiling and as you said the glide and pumping is great but turnability and tip breaching is horrible. Recovering a breached tip is almost impossible. I have a 85cm mast which helps avoiding the breaches.

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judihudi thanks for confirming! I’ll try to go with a longer mast.

Have you had any luck dropping down in sizes of art pro or is the whole range subject to the breaching issue? What wing would you recommend instead?

That foil got rave reviews when first out. 365 skinny tail and crazyshort advanced fuse? A longer mast would probably help a lot. And as stiff as you can get. I’ve found this type of foil requires a commited slow turn that can be tightened up, but if you load it up too much initially, the mast will flex and twist and board will straighten out as you stated. It’s like your foil has found a different wave to ride.

If it’s trully from breaching, then a longer mast and concentrate on keeping the boards nose down while turning should do the trick.

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Yes I’m on 75cm aluminum mast with crazy short fuse (60cm) and the 360 tail.

Thanks for the tips. I’m going to try a longer mast and make sure I’m doing slower turns and not loading up the mast too much.

A theory on tip breaches and recovery: To be recoverable the breach should be hard and deliberate. This means a sharper turn with a steeper tip angle. When a tip breaches, while going straight for example in a piece of awkward chop, you are doomed. This likely will happen on all foils, even those that claim to be great at tip breaches. Its all in the deliberate powered turn.

So . . . . probably a longer mast :slight_smile:

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Yes agree with your statement. I’m not turning hard enough for it to be recoverable.

I’m going to test my 82cm mast today and see how that does

82cm mast did the trick. Had it out today and I could turn much harder without tips out. When I did tip out I was at such an angle that I didn’t lose lift and fall.

Thanks for the help!