Are we looking at downwind specific or is there anything in the 900-950 span range that would surf?
I want to know about the system. Teaser shots showed an aluminum fuse - similar to axis. Id love to see another brand pick up on using that axis fuse as a universal system.
I saw the UK demo one, so this info is all based on a brief chat and a look at it. It sounds like they’re reworking some of the connections and interfaces. I wish they’d do an Axis fuse, but it wasn’t and it sounds like they aren’t interested, but are refining their own system.
Would be sensible to use something that exists, I’d buy one with absolute certainty if it was on my system, and near zero chance if not (Code got lucky here I reckon). I guess a commercial decision but I think us bleeding edge consumers are pretty wary of the necessary engineering evolutions.
The foil itself looks super interesting, massive scoop of camber, running almost to the tips.
Yeah, none of the axis stuff really seems like it matches the way I ride so I’m not really motivated there but the connection system makes for cheap front wings - there’s much less tooling and labor to make a flat mount wing like axis or north than a socket like Armstrong or an integrated fuse like uni.
It would be cool to have one just for an excuse to play with some small HAs
It surfs, quite well. If your looking for the fastest glidiest downwind foils the current lineup won’t be your ticket. If you want all around range to rip on, be patient, it’s good. Construction and look seems to be awesome.
Based on that it looks like it’s similar to the axis system but something different. On the front wing i’m seeing a 3 bolt patern that indicates something like the axis front wing connection but the stab is bottom mount (as opposed to axis’s top mount) so its gotta be soemthing different.
I dont ride axis either the last wing I had was 1010 which I didnt really care for but if the industry was going to adopt a standard I think the Axis tongue makes sense.
All it would take 1 or 2 top brands switching over and the rest would be forced to follow or be iced out.
Cool to see Konrad has made the leap, I wonder if there are others out there.
I don’t understand how a brand for serious riders could be using anything less than a unibody design like lift, code, uni. It seems like the axis system is only good for their super big wings marketed at beginner wingers. It’s obvious why the Axisnsystem will be cheaper to make and ship, this attracting a certain part of the market. I doubt riders already on lift or code would go back to an axis like connection system regardless if it was kt foils
Yeah I have to agree, I know Axis has a lot of market share but if we want to go towards a universal design I’d much rather a stronger design such as codes was adopted!
Ugh…coming from mtn biking, I will not hold my breath about any kind of sensible decision making regarding part compatibility or what might become an industry standard…
Curious to see what KT does actually come up with though…
I’ve broken several unibody setups but never had an aluminum fuse fail. For the female side of the mast/fuse connection carbon is just inferior, metal is better. If you get the front wing connection GREAT there’s no stiffness advantage and the wings are dramatically cheaper to make (and this is the part you want multiple of and wear out). Look at axis and north and their $600 wings.
Ad in the modular rear fuse in carbon and the weight difference becomes minimal.
I think Axis only real problem is their front wing designs and dockstart obsession. I thought their whole modular system was actually very nice before I switched to Unifoil for prone foil focus. Very easy to travel with too. I would go to a brand like that if they had the front wing style I wanted.
Sounds and look very compelling. Looking forward to some feedback from riders. It’s not going to be amongst the lightest setups out there but those connection designs look solid.