Sabfoil comes with a monofoil for winging, similar to triton.
What are your thoughts? Does somebody wing with monofoil?
Except “it’s not, as you would expect, a mono-foil…”
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But still, “raw mode” is monofoil. Or is this something else?
I think he just means that you’re not stuck using it only as a monofoil.
Looks interesting, similar to the Triton concept, but perhaps SABFoil has the name brand recognition to make it more popular. I’m intrigued that such a deep chord can allow as much glide as it appears to have.
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Yes, that’s true.
Will be interesting to see how people think it is.
But I also struggle to imagine you get much glide out of it…
The seadevil can be used with and without a stab…that is quite different from the Triton.
I tried the triton and it was very difficult to wing imo and focused on more wind/ advanced (kite) riders while the Seadevil seems to aim more on maximise low end without an huge span.
Yes It will probably have less glide as a wider span foil, but more maneuvrabile.
Right now I,m on holiday in Crozon-France where we have clean Ocean swell and I can Supfoil with an AFS Enduro 1100 and make speedy wide arcs. awesome!
Over here an Seadevil looks useless, but back home in the netherlands where DW in low energy short period windbumps where you paddle up against of the bump in front of you I,m happy when I get my Evo1650 up to foil…but quite often paddle most of the time instead of foiling.
I used to have an Levethian 1350( that is the span!, with 1780cm2). easier to get on foil but really boring to to turn once you are on foil. So for MY lake conditions something bigger as the Levthian1350 but with less span seems like a great toy to make the best of the what we got.
They say it has an max speed of 30km p/h…we never reach speeds like that so no big deal when topend is limited to add more low end.
I hope to demo one soon!
Hoppline already made an review:
Thoughts? I guess it makes sense in a kind of “so! You have another few kilo coins to spend on foil gear? Well then, here’s a slow low aspect reflex camber foil you can ride with a stab until you reach Balz’s demi-god skills then you can loose the stab and do 360s on it” way.
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Bals is amazing, what a completely compelling video! This truly looks like a breakthrough. But I do fear we gloss over the very high drag and this foil is going to be going back in time to the thick draggy pigs of a foil we used to ride 5 years ago. If this thing is anywhere near as efficient as a modern surf wing it would be amazing.
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In the past year everyone going higher and higher aspect ratio for the foil ,
It’s looks like Sab just re discovered the Low aspect foil , and try to make cool looking one.
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Once upon a time…
There is always a market for people who wanted to stand out and look different.
When I started foiling, I believed that a revolution was right around the corner 
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Yeah I watched the Hoppline review earlier. If you fast forward to around 8:00, you’ll see him on both the small and large wings pretty effortlessly gliding on what appears to be very small tanker wake waves. He does have a foil drive on but probably just to get into the wake. I don’t see him turning it on much if at all. He said in the video that he went several kilometers. That’s pretty impressive.
The ship and the waves are really slow, there’s no way to ride much faster ocean or sea waves with such a slow and draggy foil.
This very low aspect concept is ideal for riders seeking early gliding and leisurely riding. Its stylish design also attracts significant attention from others.
True but there are plenty alternatives for fast ocean waves and swells.
We do a lot of DW on on the lakes with pumpfoils like the 1310, because of the lack of energy and speed in the water. This might be an more turny alternative.
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I think it looks pretty unappealing based on the riding shared, but I can imagine it being very useful for any situation where a pump foil is used.
In pump wake riding where you otherwise need a big slow foil, now you can turn super tight to stay in the energy.
In extreme light winds where your alternative is a wide span higher aspect foil.
Definitely doesn’t look useful in actual waves, but I’d be curious to see how it goes. Maybe foam bashes are made easy.
This video makes a good comparison between a carver skateboard vs a longboard. I think this is appropriate. I found carvers fun for a week or two but then lost interest, while others got into it in.
All the characteristics of extreme maneuverability are emphasized,
Flying wing shapes like this are extremely manoeuvrable, but the turns are not fluid or smooth. They have almost a novelty level of pitch sensitivity, which makes them insanely agile. A traditional shape is more fluid and smooth. I can see this being quite interesting for playful small stuff.
I am unsure how it works in reality, but my simulation with XFLR5 indicates very poor performance.
I hope to get my hands on a SD 1040 to do a wood/carbon copy. That would be real fun.
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Got to ride the smaller one today, without the tail. Super smooth ride, fast enough for a casual freeride. No drag feeling at all, the wing remains light in your hands at all times. Gradual easy lift, good glide through the turns, super forgiving wingtip breaches. What more can you want from a fun foil? Did not find any negatives, even the 5 degrees weather felt warm. Planning to use it for teaching total beginners, with a super short mast and with a more stable board and with a tail of course. Let’s see how it goes.
I don’t think Sabfoil would release something that didn’t work well…!
Cool…thx for that…
As others have suggested, I see this as a potentially turny/fun alternative to a huge pump foil for light conditions on inland waters…currently using Leviathan 1150 and 1350 and they have really extended the lower end of my wind range, but clearly have their downsides.
I’m thinking of going with the 1040 since low end/light wind is the target use, replacing the big Leviathan…but I’d like to get a better sense of how much lift we are talking about and what the low end of its range is like compared to the big pump foils…(although perhaps we should compare it to the 1360 pro, which is supposed to have less of the downsides of the 1350).
ETA: Hoppline says the 1040 has comparable lift to the Lev1150 or 1350…which still makes me wonder, since those two Leviathan’s differ a fair amount, and he doesn’t appear to wing much, so may not be the most appropriate reference