Shrinked Downwind Boards for winging?

Erik, you talked about your progression in wingfoiling and about a mid-sized board you use now (enigma?). What shape is it? You have pics? I wonder what my next board could look like - i aim for small baltic-sea swells :slight_smile:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzRKQBFLl_z/?igshid=YjVjNjZkNmFjNg==

It looks like that

Hard to see details of the board (size/shape) with that man filling the pier :rofl:

quiver killer board details here:

new toy

only had it out one time. it is about +15liters for my weight. It did not feel cumbersome to me at all. Thrilled with the performance.

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Haven’t taken it out yet but excited. At 75L it’s -5, 6’long by 20’ wide


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So that takoon seems to have two
Deep
Concave at each side, i don’t know if concave is the correct wording, but is that will make the board suck water before releasing on foil. I know first gen boards with super worked bottom shapes were. The other thing, would it be better to have a wide point back and have less foAm in front for swing weight? Or it doesn’t affect? I’m not criticizing the shapes, it’s for my own understanding.

Hi. When you’re riding on the ā€œwrong sideā€, I think on starboard in your photo, what do you do with your back foot? Do you have to place forward of the back strap? The offset back strap is something I’ve not got my head around

Idk, I’m rather agnostic when it comes to concaves, other than thinking they don’t do any harm above a certain speed, and should improve stability at lower speeds. Maybe increase touches compared to bagels, or bevels as I meant to say. I do think, also, that the opposite of concaves, like the appletree profoil, can bog down the most from my experience. Also, adding some shape makes for a stiffer board.

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@RowFlues I will put my backfoot in front of the strap and just ride with a narrower stance. Not trying any airs on starboard :grimacing:

I don’t really ride straps lately. We haven’t had much wind lately either. But when I tried straps on the Omen board the other day. The back strap is out of your way when you have a slightly offset stance.

So yes, you either stand with a narrower stance and your foot is in front of the back strap. Or you are slightly offset and your heel is not affected by the offset back strap.

@Hdip what size Flux were you on? How did you find the orientation of the front strap inserts?

I wing the 60 L. I prone the 36 L, never strapped this one up though.

Honestly the strap inserts are exactly where I stand anyway. Even when I was riding with my foot out of the back strap on my normal (goofy) stance. I was often just standing directly on top of it. I had a big foil on for light wind, so guessed at mast position. It was close enough that day, but could use a little refining.

I know exactly where my Omen mast goes thankfully. Rear most front strap position and I run the back strap long so that I have some play in my back foot position.

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First session on my takoon was an eye opener. Thoughts:

Early in they said olly up, instead of like a plane, but with HA wings speed plus gentle finesse seems the way, these boards help with that.

I’d previously used a standard 60L wing board (80kg), and in rowdy conditions it was hard not to pearl when standing up. This does not do that, and with speed rolling isn’t an issue. today was light wind with chop, so hard. But with some little wing pumps I could stay planing, like when winging a prone board, while standing up. I’m not sure if there is a top wind speed for these boards.

Speaking of, they expand a given wing’s range. What could be easier to get up than barely floating and fast? But seemed as easy to pump when bump riding as my 60L despite it being 75L.

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I’ve been winging this 85L a while now. I don’t love it unless the it’s relatively calm. It is pretty wobbly (side to side) getting up in a big chop. In the backwaters, I can get up in next to no wind or scale down the hand wing a size or 2.

I’ve been sailing a 6’ 2" 100 liter Steyen since mid-summer. I love it enough that my 85-liter traditional shape (wider and shorter) 5’ 2" Steyen wing board is staying dry. That said, that one travels much easier. Are you a paddler or winger?

I’m a winger. In flat water it’s a dream though!

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Your experience jives with mine on a board w similar dimensions. It’s excellent in flatwater and conditions where swell energy aligns with wind. But when it’s chaotic and cross grained it is much harder to manage than a lower volume sinker.

At 80kg my ideal quiver is probably a 50-55liter and an 85 liter. If I needed a single board quiver it would be 60-65 liters.

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Do you think it is necessary to be able to sink those kind og mid-length quiver killer boards to be able to start them in choppy conditions? If so, how much under your weight should they be?

Is that Takoon ultra glide custom dims, as I can only find a 6,0ā€œ with 75L?