Better pump and low end and stall speed. Lower top speed
it turns better and just wakes things up, helps you stay high, feels really good when pumping out and swinging around big turns 180 degrees or more into waves, I tend to touch down less and helps me surf more closer to the pocket
Looks like a sales pitch to me. Iāll try it soon
Had my 5th session prone foiling on the Evo 155 yesterday.
I have been on the Progression 140 and 170 since they came out almost two years ago and the P200 for the last year.
Iām 165 lbs (75kg) and on all the Progressions I run the medium fuse, 14.5 Progression tail and +0.5 shim. Iām typically looking to connect as many waves as possible trading some turning ability for pumping. So far on the Evo 155 Iām running the same setup except with a +1 shim.
Iāve ridden the Evo 155 back to back with the P140 and P200. As far as sizing I think the Evo 155 could be a one wing quiver for me for short period knee to chest high shore runners. Definitely replaces the P170, has some overlap with the P140, and I didnāt really miss the P200 when switching between the Evo 155 and P200. That said I would like to get a bigger Evo for tiny prone days.
In my opinion the Evo is definitely not a beginner wing. think you would have a tough time pumping it as a beginner but if you can pump and connect a lot of waves on the P140 and know how to keep your speed up you are ready for the Evo.
Agree with everything you just said. If you havenāt already, Iād recommend giving the 155 a try with the short fuse too. Itāll give you a tighter turning radius with very little tradeoff in the pump.
Iāll try the short fuse next time. Thanks!
What are you guys shimming the evos with for downwind? Myself and a friend are experiencing back leg burn, not significant, but enough to want to balance things out and now Iāve had someone reach out on the forum with the same exact issue. donāt get that with the progressions but definitely with the evos. even on the big 205. Mast forward hated that. no matter where I shuffle my feet it says the same, If my front foot getās any closer to my back foot i will have no control over the foil lol. went .5 shim helped a little bit, gonna try a +1 on a short lap this weekend and see what thatās like.
I wouldnāt say this is a problem on the evos, Iām still fairly new to dw and my back leg started cramping around mile 25 after a lot of downwinding one day last week, just curious to see if anyones feeling the same thing and or running more agressive shims or baseplate shim combos. Iām going to do some experimenting and hopefully this might help others get their tuning right as well.
I know itās a bit different, but Iām typically running the 0 shim with the Evo 155 when doing shorerunners (usually 7 to 8 miles), but thatās also with the Progression 14.5" tail. The only times that Iāve encountered back leg burn so far have been from standing too far forward relative to the mast position. Once I shuffle back a bit it goes away.
What did you hate about the mast being more forward?
most of the time Iām running the 0 shim too, I only recently started playing more attention to that little bit of back leg burn and fine tuning. Itās really not that bad but hearing it from a few people now has me curious on others tuning. These wings throw you up on foil so easily that moving my mast forward just gave me too much lift, especially when I was paddling up, made things crazy awkward getting up to speed and made me feel over foiled and breach in spots that I shouldnāt have felt over foiled. If Iām trying to make a hard cut and doing a lot of pumping you can really feel the lack of front foot pressure
hey guys , do you think with the evolution 235 I can dockstart and downwind ? Thanks
Itās a āfastā wing for being big, from what I have heard. So then success depends on your skill, your dock, and your weight.
If learning (in my experience - I have helped about 8 people learn with varying skill levels and weights) on a giant slow wing 1800-2200sqcms youāll get it from 40-100 falls (depending on skill). A 1300-1600sqcm wing (not slow or giant) 200-300 falls. Thatās for 170-200lbs men that already know how to foil. On a perfect dock.
My high skill, 150lb buddy, on that same perfect dock can use his 880sqcm wing. (But he learned on the Cab 2100sqcm)
I know how to dockstart , I actualy do it on the progression 200 but I need more glide . Concerning the downwind I never tried with my progression coz my friends have AR foils minimum 10+
I demoed the 235 on FD. It reminded me of the Axis 1300, you could definitely use it to dock start and for small condition dw runs. It has more glide then the p200 for sure, had a pretty low stall speed similar to the 200 but perhaps a tad higher. The 235 felt like it would have a higher top end as well as it accelerates nicely similar to the other evos. But as you would expect from the span it does not turn nearly as well as the 200.
I am a pretty mediocre at pumping, while I found the additional glide helpful to extend my pump range/duration, the 235 was not a game changer for me. In contrast I demoed an Armstrong ha980 and that was the first time I felt like I could pump till my legs gave out vs bad technique ending my run. I personally am eyeing a high camber design for my next foil as I need every bit of help I can get. The Evos are nice high span HA dw/surf foils, but I think they are more technical and less forgiving then other foils on the market including the progression series.
Side note: Depending on your conditions the progression series is great for dw. They match well for lower period wind swell
I use the 205 for light wind, itās a big wing, if u can dock start the 200 you shouldnāt have an issue with the 235. Iād personally only dw micro conditions on it, my 205 can handle crazy small bumps at 80kg
Iāve downwinded the evo 175 and I always shim my Uni foils with 0.5. That took away any back leg feeling and keeps the pump balanced for me. It could also depend on the board you are riding and the angle of the foil