Will there be replays of the Zoom sessions if I can’t make the live call? Released on YouTube as a video podcast perhaps?
Yes, I think I remember Eric mentioning that folks can watch the Zoom at a later date on the latest podcast with Mike Pedigo.
@Erik I enjoyed the first call, looking forward to the discussion of shims on tomorrow morning’s call. Any plans to record the meeting and host it somewhere for view afterwards? Don’t want to miss it if school drop off get’s in the way.
We’re deciding if we post the entire calls, or just break out parts for socials, etc…. Thanks for dropping by today.
Put it behind the Unifoil email newsletter if you need a middle ground. Private video on vimeo or YouTube. I’m just a sucker for quality content and will go to great lengths to get it. ![]()
Really enjoyed and appreciate the calls. Really informative, thanks!
Kick me when I’m down why don’t you. I couldn’t really make the last 2 calls and you go on and on about how great they were in the beginning of the podcast.
Put them on YouTube and monetize it if you must. I’ll take what I can get haha.
Missed you Tuesday brother. I don’t want to post this last one as I used clips from a bunch of folks. But they’re only gonna get better (we hope)
The last zoom meeting was good to listen to
Why not do both? 5sec clips for the ADHD kids and full episodes for the rest. Please.
Where do we send clips for analysis?
You can shoot me clips on my email. I’ll dm it to you now. You coming tomorrow? Happy to break down a clip.
Someone has to sacrifice their vanity for the cause. May as well be me.
EDIT: That was fun. I would recommend you guys sending clips in to Erik.
Since they need a topic for the call tomorrow AM.
Question for the Unifoil call. Is Instagram the best place for foiling to be covered? I’ll probably be asleep and getting kids to school, so I’ll add in some thoughts on the subject from my end as someone who does not post on Instagram.
I see it as great for the athlete. Because the athlete get’s to live in an echo chamber of their own adoration? They don’t have to go anywhere. Don’t have to search anything out. Everyone comes to them and tells them how good they are.
It’s a non-searchable, lost to the wind medium. Where’s the post that Edo made 3 weeks ago? Who knows. Was it on the F-one page? Was it on the Slingshot page? Was it on his page? Who knows. You can’t search for it.
How was the FSRL race? An athlete that is at the event says. Oh it was good. It’s all on IG. It is? Where? I can’t search to find it. I can see 1 wave clips at times. But that doesn’t tell me a story. That doesn’t let me know what happens. No it’s there, the heat sheets are all posted in a story. So for 24 hours it was up and the heat sheets didn’t have any scores so I don’t know what happened? I don’t even know what page to go look for.
Media for foiling needs to be better in my opinion. Is it the athlete’s job to provide media? Someone has to do it.
@Hdip, for better or worse, the media landscape has changed. If you see a gap in the type of coverage you’d like that you’d think others would also appreciate, maybe give creating / aggregating that type of content a go? Might be surprised at the results!
I’ve tried. Nothing big. Apparently if you don’t have an instagram following the large outlets don’t want to pay you
But I’ve covered “contests” on the LAFC instagram account. I’ve written articles about M2O and why people should care. I want to consume though. I don’t want to produce. I have a real job unfortunately.
I get a lot of the coverage I enjoy through coach casey club actually. Hawaii season where you can interview one of the top athletes and dissect footage while having a conversation about it is pretty rad. The year James won might’ve been my favorite Talkback Tuesday coaching call of Coach Casey Club ever.
I just think that type of media would be enjoyed by all and want someone to produce it.
Topic idea for the next session: prone board design. What have we learned over the past few years? Is there a genuine one quiver board or do we just need to accept condition dependent (clean takeoffs vs white water chips). Length vs volume vs nose and tail shape vs hull design.
@hdip I think you raise a good point, but I the landscape has changed too much to cater to what we want.
There is now only one objective: get a viral clip.
Viral bullshit is the only thing that leads to eyeballs which lead to sales.
The extension of this is that there is no athlete anymore.
Anyone who is a sports player and actually thinks of themselves as an athlete is living in a fantasy. Recent changes to For You video media has really entirely killed the notion of a “pro surfer”.
People that are paid to do fringe sport like foiling are called “The Marketing Department”. Or if they aren’t good or getting a bit old, then they are “The Sales Department”. **
There is no “Pro Team”.
There is only a pipeline that turns turns into clips, or bikini turns into clips.
Listening to the riders, I keep getting this feeling that foiling is so commercially optimised that we missed or had a short window of “competitive foiling”, which is ultimately an unprofitable endeavour.
If you get sponsored as a rider, what is happening is you are being offered an internship on the marketing team. You then have 4 outcomes
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Rare: You’re good enough at riding AND media to become a pro marketer (and you get put onto a paid media package where your salary is to go and get paid media and attend trade shows (or “contests” in the old terminology)
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Common: You’re not good enough at media so you fall into a sales adjacent position
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Ultra rare: You self-fund the athlete role and crush it because you’re the only one who can afford to do this full time
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Rarest: Occasionally R&D team, but the intersection of pro level rider and technically competent is hens teeth rare
Dave Kalama said it well in the GFP interview: back in the day, you had to surf good to get recognised by brands, and you didn’t blow your own horn. Now, step one is blow your own horn on your personal account. Brands literally cannot push content, it’s all on the individual, and them pushing content that feeds the algo.
Result is stupid videos on instagram that go viral, and contests that run without any real media
**People that are paid only in gear are called stupid (by me, to be clear I’ve been there LOL!)
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