I’ve got a few AFS stabs (Silk 152, 132, and the HA38). I placed an order for the UG41. I thought it would be helpful to gather together people’s thoughts on stabs in one place. What pairs well together, i.e. front wing + stab? How do the different fuselage sizes (short and standard) change things? What other brand models are people using with AFS front wings? That ought to at least get the conversation started. Thanks in advance.
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Lots to unpack there. Happy to answer questions but the basics:
All silks work with the 132. I prefer ug41 on 1050 and Cloud IX 157 on 650.
132 works with enduro 700, 800, 900. I prefer ug41 with all of them though.
Have also used the mako carve and mako glide 120 on them. Mako carve 130 is best with Silk 850. The forward swept design (just like the ug41 and C9 157) makes the fuse feel shortened and loosens the foil up nicely.
*edit: Forgot to add that the HA38 is excellent for speed and glide but feels like it also provides a lot more stability, less turning.
I don’t care for the short fuse on any of the foils when paired with the skinny 75 mast. Too much torque and twitch in the system. With the 80cm standard the enduro 900 and any larger span foils than that all do nicely with the short fuse.
Short fuse = more pitch and scoop style turns as it shortens the distance from front of the foil to the mast. Standard fuse is a more traditional roll turn as it maintains the traditional distancing of the front of the foil to the mast.
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132 is my preferred stabilizer for the 850 and 1050. I also have a chopped HA40 that I often use on the 1050 as I feel like it adds a little bit more low end when I need it but still feels efficient in glide. The stock HA40 definitely felt efficient on the 1050, but locked it in quite a bit, which is why I chopped it. The chop unlocked it a bit. Also have the 152, which works well on the 1050, but feels less efficient than the chopped HA40 and doesn’t turn that much better.
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Looking for the best stabilizer for low stall speed and efficient pump for dock starts with the Enduro 1600. Any suggestions? I’ve been using the Mako Carve Pro V2 XS 115cm2 stab with the 850 and 1050 silks (I prefer the V1s) and the thing is like a little rocket and it pumps SO well. So I thought I’d try it with the 1600 for dock starts - it does great once I’m up and going but I could use more stall speed at the bottom end for the initial rock/jump starts. Thinking about the AFS UCarve 160 just for pure surface area for stall speed and pump. Anyone have any suggestions?
I havent used an enduro that big, but the Pure 145 checks a lot of the boxes and might be worth considering. Pumps and glides very well and brings some low end to the foils I’ve used it on (Silks up to 1150 and E9). I find its a lot like the UC 140, but a little looser and more low end. I also happen to have one that I would sell since I’m over-stabilized right now if you are interested.
Cool I’ll look into it. I have a few I want to try before I purchase but I’ll let you know if I’m interested! Thanks for the recommendation.
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I really enjoy the UG39 with the 1600 and the UG43 with the 1300!
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I mainly use the enduro 1300 with the ug41 and was working well over the summer months. Not so over winter, extra ballast plus a full steamer wasn’t helping. Have since changed to the Crisp flex150 with good success but makes the recovery from the initial launch abit more challenging (more draggy), but definitely lowered the stall speed. Also heard good things about the ucarve and usurf 120 paired with the bigger enduros. I would love to see AFS develop a more dock/wake thieving focussed foil.
@froggerdave I’ve got that 150 for demo if you want to borrow it.
Been enjoying the UG41 with SPG fronts (180, 220, 320). for dock starts so good. for DW, the tail provides boost in glide and increased speed range greatly improving the wings’ function.
Different use case : Foil assist in powerful waist to head high waves. Very happy with the USurf 135 which improves incrementally on the Maco 150: Rolls tight and quick but offers lots of reassuring grip and stabilty when banked over. Enough pitch stability with the advanced fuse (vs the longer standard fuse but similar to mono bloc silk v1s). All this paired with Silk 950 v2 (previously 1050/850 v.1s) and a Cedrus evo surf 75. I also have the UCarve 140. After a few sessions I put it aside only because the USurf fits my wave program so well. UCarve now set up on an Enduro 900 which I am eager to try in flatter or DW conditions where glide is more important.
Thanks, Bryan. I’ve got a couple coming my way from Gwen but will let you know if none of those work. I’m about 25% on jump dock starts (no running) with the XS115cm2 Mako Carve Pro V2 so I’m looking for something that will get me to about 75%. Will check back in once I’ve had a chance to try those others.