Beginner Prone Foiling Foil Recommendations: Gong or Axis?

The cheap gong stuff probably won’t be much better than what you currently have. You need to spend at least 1k euro for their pro gear that will be efficient enough for linking waves well and still turning nice, comparable to the axis stuff probably. Gong does have a fairly long/soft fuse with the pro stab length, which makes for a pretty stable ride, but doesn’t have the same direct drive efficiency in pumping I find in comparison to unifoil or Armstrong.

Shipping plus customs for gong is around $100-200 for foils. They don’t ship boards, but you can arrange it yourself for around $400.

Definitely can learn with what you’ve got, will probably hit the sand/reef a bunch learning and don’t want to do that to nicer gear!

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Not sure if it was a good idea or not, but I think it’s a pretty good deal…
I ended up buying a used Sabfoil/Moses:

  • 72cm Carbon mast
  • W1110 Front Wing
  • W940 front wing
  • S399 tail wing
  • F647K fuse
  • F713K fuse

For $800USD for everything.

Probably too advanced for me now, but I am hopeful I will be able to use it in the not too distant future. (Or I could probably sell it for what I paid for it if I give up learning how to prone foil. :joy:)

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Sick man, nice to make the decision and get out there! I’ve never seen a Sabfoil in the flesh, but I hope it works really well and you enjoy learning - it’s such a unique learning experience; unlike anything else really. Have fun, Yew! :B

Fully agree. Would never use axis again for the reasons you list

Axis requires an encyclopedia and interperter to understanding. They have so much foils that its quite confusing. I quit them after the 1099 and their $3000 mast release, fricking ridiculous. The AFS UHM mast is $1200, thinner, stiffer and 10x better.

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I’m locked into the Axis system & I just roll my eyes now every time a new foil is released, as it’s always the best thing since sliced bread. I think if I get one more year out of my existing gear I will happily change to another brand to simply get away from the feeling that I’m always 2 years behind the current trend.

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