Hi,
While they aren’t large by industry standards, they are the larger of the series. The skinny mast really makes a huge difference turning and carving for the smaller wings, not as much for the larger ones. The span on these ones are longer, so just more inertia required to turn! Hope that helps!
Thx,
Chris
thanks…
are you planning to release the chonky 13mm mast in a tuttle option? for the bigger sizes and us bigger guys (who really benefit from the stiffness of tuttle).
What’s the AR
Not much detail on the Manta, would be nice to know the AR & wingspan please.
Hi,
the sizes for the manta surf wings are 530 and 642 - 68.8cm and 75.7cm spans respectively with an AR of 8.9.
We are working on tuttle masts in a couple different thicknesses. I’ll check on that and get back with some more details.
Br
Chris
Get off the internet and go touch saltwater. Then quickly come back and tell us about it.
We need an emergency X-Foils podcast to hear about it😊
I wish I had good news for you guys.
Testing the new F4 Manta yesterday and going out for a session now with the tow boogie. I might take a camera with me.
I won’t say anything specific… yet
But my condolences to your wallets
I don’t have a video but I wished I did because it was an impromptu event. Couple days ago a local supplier handed me the Manta 635 to try on a DW run. I was a bit apprehensive, but once on foil it has the same great Orca feel but that’s where it ends. The turns were so smooth. I started with big open ocean carves just to test it out and it felt like a powder run. Jest lean in and enjoy. Once I got comfortable, which didn’t take long because this wing has the forgiving attributes of the Orca’s. I started doing tighter turns, figure 8’s, out back upwind and into on coming swells. The run was like a skate park, chaotic and “A” frames everywhere. It was so comfortable and effortless. I can’t explain it but at the end of a turn it had this “hook” feeling to it if you pushed it hard of the top.
It has great low end too. I purposely went for the smallest knee high section I could find about 8’ wide and did a hard “S” turn just to slow the foil down and see if I could get it up to speed again……..Manta just stayed in the pocket, and kept trucking along.
By now I was just curious what this wing could do, so I started chasing swells and it can handle high speed sections. I got scared and carved out and off of the ground 
. I looked at my Garmin after the run and that was 20mph.
I was surprised how well the GP135 tail handled, I thought I would wash out but it held its own for what it is. Can’t imagine a surf tail in the line up.
Unfortunately it’s a demo wing and I had to hand it over after the run 
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For reference you can see my normal run and the run with Manta. Just more amplitude with the Manta. Also, added almost 1 extra mile to my normal run because I didn’t want it to end. Lol
how was the paddle-up mate? compared to your Orca 685
Keep in mind my board is 8-6. Once I figured out that I didn’t need too much board speed but more of a porpoise style pump then it was very easy.
Thanks for writing up and sharing your experience! If you don’t mind giving a bit more of your time, I’d appreciate your thoughts on a few points:
What mast were you on, and do you think that is the best match for the Manta?
How does the Orca handle the chaotic conditions? I’ve not seen anyone commenting on this aspect of the Orca and I am very curious as most of my spots get pretty crossed up and chaotic.
I know it’s a bit premature to ask based off one run, but when do you think you’d choose the Manta over the Orca and vice versa?
Thanks!
What mast were you on, and do you think that is the best match for the Manta?
I am on the original DW TE 75cm mast or what is the AX now. It felt fine with the DW TE mast. I’m sorry but I do not own or have any experiences with the current TE mast.
How does the Orca handle in chaotic conditions?
Like a champ, it’s agile and fast enough to zig zag through tricky sections. The foil section ability to harness energy keeps it going when you take a wrong line and start slowing down.
Manta over the Orca or vice versa?
I guess it would depend on my mood and conditions. A lot of guys here just wants to go fast whereas I like to see how low of HR I can achieve while being efficient and carving on the run.
For straight up speed and fun I would say Orca. This is my daily driver for now in pretty much all conditions, Orca 530 when it’s favorable and when I want to have new feels and learn.
Manta for a dropping tide here because that’s when the bumps stands up. I don’t prone surf or take my SUP in the surf anymore because our local break is getting a bit crowded with foilers. After riding the Manta it gave me an itch to go back .
Can anyone compare low end on the manta to other foils? Recognize size is a very limited metric and the Orcas apparently have great low end for their size - but these are still notably small foils…
I’ve got a preorder in with Dylan and I’ll share my insights when I’m able.
For me the Manta 635 has just as much low end as the Orca 685 and the Orca 685 to me is easily up there with Eagle X 800.
Unfortunately I havent ridden anything else, so cant compare with other brands, but this wing follows the trend that enables a smaller surface area with the same or better low end due to the outline, profiles, dihedral, and twist. Smaller wings are typically faster, turn better, and generally have more control. For us this lifts off as early as our old 815 wing!
@Kanye_East let us all know how you go with the Manta (prone) & dwind, once you are happy to share your findings please mate.
