My opinion is if you are riding lift foils with confidence, carving, gliding, etc., and have overcome their nuances, then you may find the KT to be a bit sticky, and not your flavor.
I found the KT appealing because while riding Lift I’m constantly breaching, and not able to ride many of the smaller lift foils properly. While on the KT I fell very little. It was super confidence boosting.
Can anyone compare Uni progression to KT for prone , and specifically how they compare for pumping?
I’m surprised there haven’t been any rider reviews on YouTube.
What I’ve been most curious about is what sailandfish kind of touched on, what they feel like and how they transition from rail to rail, especially above 20mph. I’m not knocking the 30mph claims but they gotta start locking in at some point.
I had a very short session on the 680 atlas, long fuse 145 atlas tail yesterday. Conditions were far from ideal with light wind. Probably around 10 knots, with occasional gusts a bit stronger. The low end on this foil is remarkable. Both for starts and while slowing down while on foil.
I was however experiencing some issues. First one is that the setup whistles. I need to get some fine sandpaper to fix that. (Can the g10 tails whistle, or is that generally a byproduct of carbon manufacturing tolerances only?)
The other issue is that i kept experiencing 5-10 second stints of vibrations in the setup. The session was too short for me to try to nail down what was causing it. Is vibration a possible side effect if operating close to stall speed with that much camber? It was an area with a lot of boat wakes in all directions so it’s possible this was completely unrelated to the foil. I need more time on the foil to find out.
Great thanks! Were there other foilers in the water? At crowded places like Lake Garda i feel vibrations from the wake of other foils quite frequently…boats obviously do that even more…
Yes, G10 whistles all the same… The whistling often is caused by the TE of the tail. If i recall correctly, sand it at 45deg from upper part of profile then round the 45 slightly, leaving the edge sharp/ lower bit straight
There were no other foilers out. I started by giving the trailing edge of the front wing a light sanding. Let’s see how that goes
Did you get the oppurtunity to try it again?
I have been out twice now on the Nomad 830. The setup is all KT and I have had no issues with vibration or any whistling. I am an intermediate winger, 82kg and 66yo. Normal equipment has been F One Sk8 950 and 1150. Have been out in 20 to 30 knots first time and there was a bit of fine tuning to get used to the foil being more twitchy but soon settled in. The foil is faster than the Sk8s and turns faster. The connections all seem to be solid. Yesterday I tried in no wind to 12 knots with 5m Wing, and despite spending a lot of time sitting, I was able to get up in gusts. Coming out of a tack or jibe I was surprised at the low stall speed. This a very versatile foil.
Very curious about the Atlas foils now to compare.
I had another short session on the 680 atlas. No vibration this time so that was likely just bubbles in the water from jetskis and boats. Setup still whistled a bit so I’ll try to sand the tail next. Still wasn’t able to try the upper end of the speed range, but the low end continued to impress.
A very marketing sort of video. But some great underwater shots of breaching.
Great. What foils are you riding besides the atlas and how would you compare?
Can anyone that has spent time on both Atlas & Nomad share their thoughts on which foil you would choose & in what conditions please?
I’m hearing great feedback from riders of both wings but I’m finding it difficult to decide which wing would fit me best (mainly prone & some DW).
Like everyone, I’m looking for the unicorn wing that will carve nicely even at some speed but also pump.
Dw atlas. Surf nomad.
If you needed to do both atlas is my guess.
I would say to match the wing that’s closest in span and area to what you are on now. If you feel like you have power to spare now go a little (like 15%) smaller in area but def try to keep span within 5~10%
This isnt any KT specific insight, just the reality of switching foils.
I think the real play for a 2 foil quiver is for a nomad for your bigger wing and an atlas one size down so you have two wings with about the same span so things roll and turn similar. I’d say the same thing with the Code S and R though.
Anyone know how the kt tails compare to kd marlin tails?
Hey guys, please tell me how KT measure their fuse length. (Front of mast to tail like Code?)
Measured from end to end.
Got a few waves prone on the 980 Nomad yesterday, on someone else’s gear - 85cm mast /65fuse/190 tail - first impressions compared to my 980S Code:
Nomad felt a bit slower & not as efficient as the 980S but this could have been due to the longer mast & bigger stab (with Code I’m on the 80plus mast & 135R/AR150 tail).
Nomad was much easier to initiate turns than the 980S, should be a really fun wing to lay down some nice carves.
I’m about 75kg, thinking the 830 might be the size for me & a bigger Atlas to pump around on.
Can anyone tell me what the KT 85 cm mast says for shim system value?
