the mast is not good in torsion, we both agree there.
as to the cause yes I said “maybe”, there is some misinformation around it being a stiff mast because it’s really not great, and it’s a continuous wobble, not a flex… terrible bloody thing that mast
I use my 1725s with the standard 75 Code mast for pump foiling at 73kg. Pumping around fast, doing hard turns, even getting into some mini-downwinder conditions like Yvonne, I donʻt feel anything negative. Out prone through in waves, not sure if it was the wing or the mast, but I could feel lots of energy on the wing that wasnʻt nice. It never wobbles though when I pump at an angle which is where my old Lift classic would.
I’ve dock started the 1725S and 1250R on the regular 75 mast and it felt pretty good for the 1725S but a bit spongey for the 1250R.
I do wish the one ocean had more mast foot options without adapters. At least for myself and I think a lot of others adapters are seen as very undesirable: additional slop in the system, additional corrosion and additional points for failure. I rode an axis mast with my code setup and had a lot of trouble with the adapter used as well as not trusting the 4ish turns of an M6 into an aluminum adapter…
At least for code with them lagging so far behind with mast options there seems to be a market
what level of glide/speed advantage does the 78SSS have vs. Code UHM?
I also wonder where this leaves Cedrus…I have really enjoyed my Evolution Surf and the flexibility the adapters provide (and their quality), and it was a big performance upgrade when I got it…
I will look forward to hopping on these next gen setups to see what difference it makes for me and if it is worth locking into a brand (along with what Kyle has up his sleeve in response)…
Yeah it’s always on mind is to how to make it more universal but also keep it as efficient as possible. I know a perfect idea is out there but just need to work it out.
Any one have the perfect idea hit me up and lets make it
I’ve used the 78SSS all winter mainly with the code 860R and found it more than stiff enough at 90Kg. There’s a noticeable increase in glide when you’re up high. It also makes the foil noticeably more maneuverable. If it’s the stiffness or super short chord I can’t say. Takes some getting used to but now I prefer to not use my stock masts.
Yeah, an aluminum adapter is a pain in the ocean. Not pretty after a season but it still works. Thinking of asking Stringy to mill me one out of stainless, how much more could it weigh?
With the 78SS, I’m 5+sec/km faster.
As i said earlier, I prefer the 78SS because it gives me more control than the 78SSS. But lighter friends are super happy with the 78SSS.
Titanium would be the better choice, half the weight of steel and plenty strong enough. But most importantly, Aluminum is around .8-1 on the galvanic potential scale, Stainless is half of that, and titanium is nearly zero. It’ll basically last forever in contact with carbon, while Aluminum is a terrible choice and stainless -while better- is only going to take longer to corrode which it eventually will.
When you say stock mast, you mean Code HM, or Code+?
Thoughts on how the stiffness compares between F4 RC and KT Apex? 
More apt comparison would be the Apex and the SR.
Had a quick feel of the SR, it felt stiffer in torsion and softer than the Apex in bending. Didn’t get to ride and don’t know dims so can’t speculate much on speed. Seems like a great option for people looking for more stiffness than the AX
Original Code HM. The 75 and 80 work well enough for me with the 980S. The 80 becomes noticeably flexy with longer spans (860R on up). It’s really an antique though in this thread 
I doubt it will be cost effective to make just a few Ti Axis / Code adapters unfortunately. I had coated the Al one with Tef gel and despite the almost imperceptible gaps, it was power washed right out in one session, the residue coating the lower trailing edge of the mast 
It’s held up well enough I guess considering I almost always leave everything assembled, just rinsing the best I can in fresh water.
I’m going to have a big batch of them made to get cost down. I just stumbled on an axis ultra mast and going to make at least one for myself. These should be Ti
Would that also work with the One Ocean masts with Axis foot? That could be killer and reasonable cost, right?
Axis perf mast is so expensive!
Downwind riders are jumping ship from Code in droves I presume largely due to lack of a skinny/race mast, a super solid adapter would be amazing!
Pro riders? All the pro racers for sure have access to the proto masts.
Those without access to proto gear of course
We have seen the proto masts for ages now but no word on release.