What would Red Bull do with foiling?

open question: what would Red Bull do with a foil event?

They have a knack for running the best version of a sports competition (and then quickly pulling the plug, thanks for getting my hopes up), I wondered what their take on foiling would be?

They are currently running a WingSphere thing which looks like a wing air/wave riding thing (lame), but I could imagine them doing it with Nikolas and Kai Lenny going head to head with strapped backflips or something. Would be pretty one-dimensional from our perspective, and ACL destroying, but that was the best I could come up with that I could imagine them running.

What would be the best version of a Red Bull foil event?

foilcross down the rapids :rofl:

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Red Bull Foil Barrel Series

Stop 1

Cloud Break, Fiji

Stop 2

Teahupo’o Tahiti

Stop 3

Nazaré, Portugal

Stop 4

You get the idea.

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Saying a wing/wave comp is lame is certainly an interesting opinion given what they are doing these days.

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My opinion indeed. winging air+waves is likely the best candidate for red bull but it’s windsurfing v2 in my eyes, and hard to see it grabbing attention

My point is that Red Bull puts some interesting events together, a wing contest is not one of them

(My reservations extend further when you consider that any crash in front of a wave will invariably destroy the wing and that no consumer can possibly go anywhere near waves like that without it being a massive expense, on equipment that is already a few $k a pop (pun intended) I winged a bit in waves, all the wings absolutely shredded. Unattainable for consumers not because it’s hard but because the gear is not actually, despite what the videos show, usable for that environment… )

I just realised this thread is basically a repeat of the gwa thread

Basically: tow would be better, and backhand winging should be banned :joy:

Just because you can’t/won’t do something doesn’t it make it lame. That is a rather personal and limited opinion.

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Medium riders wing in medium,mellowish waves all the time,no drama.

Top pros like Guenole (beautiful vid in Ponta Preta https://youtu.be/6p1vo4SwRRs?is=25THBXSRMphGLTUt ) or Berzolla ( incredible ripping in South Africa https://youtu.be/mhycxL0H93A?is=IYG8TWkz0KupEPJe ) are doing stuff that is pretty impressive IMHO.

To be clear, I think winging is fun, and by far the best windsport in existence for the average joe person to adopt given the versatility, ease, etc.

What Cash did in SA is way more impressive if you know the spots where he did those slab airs, it’s beyond wild, not to mention wildly inaccessible. I didn’t persevere at winging because they kept popping, I am/was good at other things, such is life, I’m comfortable in my skin, and holding opinions :smiley:

My point is not that winging in itself is lame or not dangerous or not impressive, or not technically challenging, it’s that as a competition/spectacle it’s not interesting to a larger audience. Not the freestyle, not the racing, not even at a stretch the wave riding. Maybe this Wave Sphere event proves me wrong.

The reason for the thread: foiling is novel (when it doesn’t look like kite/windsurfing), and I wonder what Red Bull could or will do to exploit that for viral clips. Pump foiling on a skyscraper?

funny this both quite the type of thing they’d do, and is the one thing I wish people would stop trying. It’s clearly a bad fit, and to come off foil in a barrel with a foil gives me the creeps…!

Fair enough

AI reply since I don’t see the association either

If you don’t like AI, skip this comment lol

Red Bull doesn’t care if the masses “get” wingfoiling; they just want the “Holy Sh*t” factor.

It’s cheaper for them to own a niche, death-defying event than to buy a Super Bowl ad. They get insane footage of humans “flying” over mountains of water to keep their brand looking “extreme,” while secretly targeting the high-income demographic (like you) who actually buys the gear.

Basically: come for the wipeouts, stay for the brand association.

I guess the thread is already answered by two facts

  1. The first event is the wing sphere thing, regardless of the outcome, it was what RB deemed appropriate
  2. Nikolas and Kai doing flips is the only foiling that gets main RB page coverage

I’m sure the sufers that see any foiling discipline in the line up says the same thing you do. “Foiling is lame and gay”. Guys or gals that can wing, SUP DW, PW, SUP Foil surf, Prone are better to watch. Versus the one discipline foiler. Honestly, who can watch any foil video for more than 5 minutes? As a PW, Winger, Prone foiler, Sup foil, DW…i can’t even watch any foiling video for more than 60 seconds. I tried to watch the M2O race last year and i just couldn’t, quite honestly if a foiler gets bored watching it. Imagine an outsider. So thats why i think winging gets more exposure from Red Bull, becuase they can lauch 30 ft airs which gets the wow factor from audiences.

I watched this one all the way through. https://youtu.be/kMUE8tSzCSY?si=jySp1wIjup6mX82h

I am more excited watching dot vision than any of the M2O footage typically.