Presumably it is the “matched” 1050 tail which is the 152
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I’ve a tried the setup with the KD Marlin 15" at 2degrees AOI. Noticeable change in low end and stall speed.
Also talked to the distributor, he felt that the HA135 tail from the Pure series will change the setup to my liking so I have one on the way.
Can’t wait to try it out. I’ve been trying few systems lately and none has matched the feel of the
E700 in terms of how relaxed and stable the setup is in rough messy conditions.
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1075 turns and rides like a smaller foil, but as I have reported elsewhere is quite draggy going slow. So not really a fair comparison. I would expect the 1100 Enduro to be a clear winner head to head in every category based on what I am feeling on the 1300. But this is conjecture
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Yes, 152. 900, is so good im selling my Silk 1050.
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@foilpatrol I’d be very interested to hear your opinion on the Enduro vs the KT Nomad. Trying to decide whether to buy into the AFS or KT ecosystem…
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Sounds more likely the Enduro would compare to the Atlas just by seeing the ARs.
Would really like to hear anyone comparing these two foils too
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From someone else:
“Atlas definitely has a much better low end than the Enduro, but that’s normal considering the camber.
The Enduro still has lot of glide, quite a bit more glide than the Atlas. I would almost compare the 680 Atlas to the 900 Enduro in terms of range of conditions they will excel in.”
I think it was because of this that my expectations for enduro stall speed were low enough that I felt surprised by how slow it actually felt, maybe he was using smaller ha tails.
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If you are planning on surfing waves and want to push your turns, nothing puts a smile on my face more than the Silk 850. It’s just soooo smooooth and forgiving. The enduro fills the gaps for me everywhere else.
Overall, I am so stoked about AFS and I believe they are working on a new silk that might come out late next year or early 2026. Amazing stuff now and more coming!!
note - I have not tried KT. Just super stoked on AFS.
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@AFoiler1 Other commented that it would not be comparing apples to apples which is correct.
The Atlas is more comparable and I did have some time on that foil as well.
I have a different take on that though. I think the Nomad is much more versatile foil than the
Atlas, kind of a daily driver one foil quiver. Light wind to crazy nuking. Surf, Wing, Downwind does it all great. For certain downwind conditions I would actually rather have the Nomad than the Atlas.
When it comes to conditions that I would like more fine-tuned experience than what the Nomad
could provide this is where I would go with the Enduro rather than the Atlas.
In conditions where take-off speed and stall speed are not an issue I would choose the Enduro 700. This foil just goes through the water so smoothly even in rough conditions. I never felt any nervousness even going at high speed in these conditions.
Every other foil I tried required certain level of concentration to manage flight in these conditions.
I found it more pitch stable and stable in general right out of the box no shims no tweaks.
No fine-tuning required. it just works and the feeling was amazing.
Build Quality it’s not even a close match. AFS must be the pound for pound contender if not king in the industry. This system screams quality. Very light and durable for such a thin foil.
The AFS UHM mast is state of the art. I can’t believe any other system will outperform this
mast in any meaningful way, certainly not KT current mast, they will come out with their own UHM mast eventually but I would not expect it to be better.
The one thing that KT is hand down better is their cases, not expensive looking but very
well put together and it show that some thought went into it. AFS needs to re-work their case system which is flimsy and cheap looking. Not a great way to present such a high quality foil system.
One of the reasons I ride the Cedrus mast is that I don’t have to ride only one system.
I’m thinking of keeping the Nomad for everyday foiling and take the E700 out when the conditions calls for it.
Waiting on an AFS adapter for my Cedrus for back to back comparison against the UHM mast.
I’m also testing the E700 against the Lift Florence X 110 (710sqcm). Not sure which one I will
land on for “special operations” 
but it would not be the Atlas
Hope that helps
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I really dont see why you would even need an updated Silk when the Enduro is so good.
A silk that comes apart would be nice and allow me to unload my kujiras. And i could imagine something a bit liftier so you can downsize (but still with gentle takeoff) and in the upper 9/low ten AR so the turning/glide balance is towards turning?
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Enduro is great all-around but on a big day when all you want to do is carve, the silk is without question way more fun to ride.
But totally depends on what you like and where you ride. If you always want a wing that can pump well, Enduro is probably all you need!
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I’m applying a new rule this season -
I’m 69Kg - intermediate to advanced rider (no crazy freestyle stuff) and for what I’ve been testing in the past, gonna go with the under 800cm2 rule for my whole quiver (except for ultralightwind and pumping)
So reasoning is like this!
650 SILK for serious over or chest high waves in prone - tow and winging
700 Enduro a my daily driver - after testing it in 3 different sessions and pushing the low end to it’s max, by playing with it’s stab and mast positioning I know I can get it to work in conditions from knee/waist high for prone and winging - Also my go to when wind is over 20knots and swell is very active por SUP downwinding in a more surf style mode (this is yet to be tested and approved 
)
750 Ultra - Just ordering it - as my whole downwind range from nuking to 15 knots minimum downwinders - Hope I can pull it out - I can estimate (based on past experiences on the HA800 Pure) that I’ll be able to glide and pump long on the small rolling waves days proning and sup surfing.
Enduro 1300 as the exception for the really really small stuff and practicing pumping and flat water paddle starts (and try to enjoy them a bit) -
So my point is - that things are getting so wide in range and sizes - that perhaps you can have a sweet spot size for your weight and just change models/shapes and AR’s to especialize in each modality!
Any thoughts?
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I have the 850 and when the winds is 20MPH+ and waves are overhead, the 850 is my go to. The 650 for me is limited, if i was in Maui, sure i get that. But on Oahu, the winds and waves for my break is good enough for the 850. The pure 900, is a hell of a wing to wingfoil with. Its way faster than the 850 and surf really well and has much better glide than the 850.
I used the 750 for our DW race seasons and when i want to just cruise and glide on small wave days. I prone the 1050 and its really good! The E900 is an upgraded Silk 1050 for me, does everything the 1050 does but with more zest. I do lose out on the carve and maneuverability a bit. But i gain so much more with speed and pumpimg with less energy.
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I had a short time on the Ultra 750. You could definitely pull it off for what you described at your weight. I got 15kg over you and didn’t have much issue operating those wings.
As for the Enduro 700, any insights regarding stabs, shimming for best low end results will be appreciated.
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What i like best about AFS is that there is no need for shimming. I hated Unifoil, due to shimming to dial it in. Same with Takuma, Axis. I like AFS and Lift system, bolt it on and go. Thatas just me though
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I don’t shim any of my AFS Either.
I like the way they come, I just use either long stab position for easier pump and it does feels like you get that bit of better low end, and put the mast a little more to the front and gain more front foot pressure.
Oh sorry, the only shimming I do use is at the mast base, with -1 I do gain more front foot pressure too for recovering from pumping.
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Also play with a bigger stab.
Take into account that I like my surf setup with the smallest possible stab and always in the shorter stab position, and with the mast in the back so the surf feeling is the best possible, more balanced feet pressure, no loading on the front foot on a big carve, obviously this configuration demands me to be more technical on the glide and the pumping (cause it’ll be not giving so much front foot pressure, so gotta be more careful on the pump).
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Well -
Almost 20 days so far on the Enduro 700 / HA38 / UHM 80
Wind finally picked up and season started here in Colombia -
Been using this only foil for all these days either for wing - prone and even tried once in sup downwind expecting absolutly nothing, I thought I was going to just paddle all the 6K down not flying enough.
Gotta say it really is an all-rounder - I do feel like it requires a some level to take it to it’s max potential and still think the SILK it’s more user friendly since you can’t just fight with numbers (850 more area and 8AR lower AR), yet still it’s not a hard foil to ride, and you do find the benefits of having more glide and speed with less area at least for my weight, this has made that I hardly feel overfoiled which I did feel sometimes on the SILK 850 - and still benefit from the same span making it very close to it’s low end - and you can compensate with a little more effort or rider level.
Winging - I feel like I can take it out with small to medium (chest to shoulder height) - haven’t had any bigger waves yet that I feel like I should move to the SILK 650.
We get some long lines which benefits of a glidy foil and the speed helps a lot to take more advantage to play with the bigger long non breaking waves.
The speed and ease to pump from one wave to another and still be able to carve hard these kind of waves - really hit the spot for the conditions we ride.
Here I’m riding the longer stab position (and short fuselage) which add some pitch stability and I enjoyed these test since going that fast, it’s a good thing to have that extra pitch stability. Perhaps in steeper waves I would prefer the shorter stab position.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDXBlyqu2wE/
On the Downwind - I was surprised I was able to pop it up to flight on my 6’10" x 18" SUP DW board - was not a super easy task, but once I got the proper bump, I was able to do it and once up on flight, the speed and glide really impressed me so this can compensate for being such small foil and still glide on small stuff - swell was very small and winds were around 18 to 22 knots - seaweed screwed me many times, but had the chance to get a couple 2 mins rides that showed me the potential of this foil for going fast and surfing - Definetly a demanding foil, since it’ll show no mercy if you screw on the line decision - But still low end is good enough to carve your way out to gain more speed on the same bump.
So - I think I’m on good track to have the 700 Enduro as my daily - 80% of conditions - driver -
SILK 650 and ULTRA 750 as the specialty ones -
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Can anyone compare the enduro 1100 (and maybe the 1300) vs the 1100HA? Takeoff speed/low end, speed, turning?
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