Awesome… thanks for the info… just what I wanted to hear!
I’ve paddled and dock started etc with the 1675 on the A+ mast and IMO its pretty unruly without the PM
if you’re going to invest in the APF id definitely recommend the PM, especially for downwind it was difficult to control, even made balancing on the boat significantly harder do to wobble
Thanks for the info… I opted for the alloy mast and hoping that will give me the added stiffness!
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newdeal,
This is an older thread but did you ever get wake time on the apf 1675? I’m in the same scenario as you in respect to riding style and weight and am also considering changing over to an Armstrong setup with either the apf 1675 or 1880 foils for dock start, pumping and small wake surfing. I’d be curious how it worked out for you. Also, if your happy with the wkt board for that setup. Thanks!
Hey Niklus,
I’ve been riding the APF 1675 for just over a year now and can absolutely confirm that all the advice given to me above was spot on.
I’ve never ridden or seen the APF 1880 so I can’t give a hands on comparison, but based on the comments above and my experience with the 1675, I’m very glad that I went for the 1675 (I couldn’t imagine riding anything bigger like the 1880 - I would love to try just to see what it like, but I think it would be to much to handle for what I use it for).
The WKT board is great and I’m more than happy with it. Has allot of lift compared to my Axis Tray which helps with the pumping.
As an added note, if I had to compare my HS 1850 to my APF 1675, it’s like chalk and cheese. They are completely different rides and both have their pros and cons, but if you plan on pumping then the 1675 is hands down the way to go - It’s a beast.
The APF 1675 is massive compared to the HS 1850, and I think any bigger than the 1675 would be way to much.
Read all the above advice given to me because these guys hit the nail on the head.
Feel free to ask any other questions and i’ll do my best to assist.
Thank you for the feedback. I’ll go with 1675 based on your comments and all others posted here. I have quite a bit of time on the Axis PNG 1150 and some lower aspect wake/surf foils but I’m attracted Armstrong’s fuselage compatibility across their foil range. I’m curious to see how the APF compares to the Axis. Thanks again.
Looking forward to hearing some feedback and comparisons once you get the 1675 Armstrong.
BTW, since picking up an Armstrong APF-1350, I’ve sold my old APF-1675. Very little loss in low-end, and a slightly faster, more maneuverable foil for the weakest bay conditions, and flatwater popups. Still more ‘heads up’ to keep it down and in the water compared to the HA-1180, but a good ‘safety foil.’
For the past year I’ve been using the APF 1675 but also own the 1880. I’m only 160 pounds and the problem with the 1880 is once you get up it has a mind of its own to go left or right which can be hard to stop. The great thing about the 1880 is it taught me how to do flat water panel ups which then quickly translated to the 1675 and now to the 1350. If you’re over 90 kg like Armstrong recommends, then the 1880 may be a little better for you, but I definitely prefer the smaller ones.