“pump is insane” is the common phrase everyone uses for every wing ever created
Agreed. A person has to try as much gear as possible, ideally more than once, and his favorite foil will be a personal preference, suiting his local conditions, with his favorite style of riding, with the bias of money and brand he already owns.
That is to say - have some perspective on what you feel in the water and read online - some people have some feedback, we try to piece it together and we hope we end up on a kit that feels good and solves our list of requirements, its a long shot.
What I found useful beyond forums is to see what free agents riding similar conditions as I do end up riding the most. Bennets being a prime example in powerful clean proning. Unfortunately free agents is an endangered specie due to the temptation of money. How can you trust a sponsored person? You can’t.
No, other than riding their foils
Went to the Demo day in Ventura yesterday. It was so flat I didn’t even get in the water.
Watched the surfline cam today while some good free agent riders were out. It looked faster than I thought it would be. Pumped as well as any other foil I’ve seen them on.
I will get on it one of these days. For surf it appears to work. Definitely upped one guys game.
He’s not a free agent
Stoked you’re loving it mate any foil that gets someone this stoked no matter the brand has to be a good thing, keep the froth levels high and enjoy.
How’d you find the 900 vs the Armstrong MA1000, out of interest?
the counter argument would be that the field of surf hydrofoils has become advanced enough to the point that “best practices” are starting to be developed, predominantly through convergent evolution in designs. Maybe it’s not actually true yet and this foil is a game-changer/breakthrough/disrupter, but that is the counter argument.
Code foils 850 is also this Cloud9/Axis Spitfire shape, so there must be something there with it with 3 companies now producing it.
Would love to try one of these wings someday, and if they’re that good, I hope Unifoil makes one too and I will be happy other brands are making sick foils and forcing eachother to make sicker gear to compete. Code foils looks a bit thinner in chord so that one intrigues me the most. Axis seems to have stuck with their pattern of thicker chords and more blunt wing tips (besides ART).
Interesting. I felt similarly and the MA1000 was the final Armstrong straw for me, hence the swap to Axis.
Good to hear your thoughts, thanks
I think a factor in this wing design conversation is wave size. I find that the anhedral wings are a little more locked in which is really nice when exceeding the top end of the wing in bigger waves while those flip tip wings are more playful on the bottom end but when you exceed their speed range you have to work harder to keep it locked down.
I imagine this is a wing you can push harder in bigger waves relative to its size but on the bottom end tends to feel a little locked in.
I have been enjoying flatter wings and no wing tips in clean conditions as they feel loose and surfy. But when choppy the wing tips and a bit of anhedral/dihedral definitely helps as it feels more like on a train track. Its a game of balance and anything that helps in that direction is appreciated.
Bennets was saying army MAs feel loose which is better for small conditions, fone sk8 more locked in the turns better for towing bigger waves.
Just had my first go on the 900. I’m 185lbs pared with kd Marlin, sillyshort, 90HM. Best all around wing I have ridden. Very well behaved. Confidence inspiring behavior and predictability. I have never railed turns so hard as on the Spitty. Slow tight slashes to fast large radius turns. Glide is less than art but just a little less than 999. And I could care less because the loose rail to rail with the slightest twitch of ankle initiation is mind blowing. The roll doesn’t get locked in at speed like wider span wings do. I was on my Kalama 8’4" X 18"(9.5lbs)barracuda proto. This board is now my main wingboard. I think I would have struggled to “get it up” on my 80L 5.0 as the wind was 12-18mph. I’m so done with small water shoveling wingboards unless its super windy. The Spitty is a carving machine. I enjoy railing as hard as I can 180 degree turns upwind then hard backside while sheeting in sail to straight downwind and repeat. I couldn’t get enough of this. Toeside is amazing. Im goofy and don’t switch so coming in port is toeside for me. I have a SS Javelin with boom and can hold wing with one hand and leash with other to trim. This opens up my hips to a more radical stance for edge to edge railbangers. The Spitty led me to flying with handwingwing still engaged but at maybe 50% power. I usually luff when on HA wide wings and surf bumps but I was having so much fun at 50% power that I didn’t luff much but just slashed and railed. I did luff some and the glide was really good. The turning is so loose that it is easy to hop of of one wave(lake chop) and hunt down another. Low end felt better than 999. And no more of that fall out of the sky stall business. It just gently glides back down to earth as it should. I feel that I nailed the size at the 900 for my needs. I’m headed to the coast today and will get it out in some down the line surf. Great job Adrian and all the testers. Thanks for making it worth the wait. This wing is retarded good. I felt like a WWII fighter pilot in a heated dogfight.
Had my first session on the 1030 and 900 spitfire
Conditions waist to chest height waves
Coming off the HPS 980 ART 999 @ 83kg
First thing I noticed was the roll rail to rail was so smooth definitely a little more back footed than the HPS and ART but pumped really well and the speed range was huge recoverable from almost stalling out and the top end seems really good never felt like it was wobbly or unsettled, also made hitting the foam really comfortable.
Definitely feels like a hybrid of the ART and HPS I rode them both with the 75cm HM short fuse chopped progressive tail.
New Spitfire released
wow they are fully committed to the “huge guy dock start” segment of the market
They are really pushing this foil. The pre-marketing hype made it sound like it was going to be a new foil, not just a new size. wah-wahhhhhh
I’m so happy with my 1100 up here in Rhode Island it’s the proning daily driver for normal size humans. Now this! I’m curious if it can be any better. There are still these days I take the 1150 out so maybe?
My foil brain is happy, curious and poor
Of course team riders are saying it pumps well… what else are they going to say!