Thanks for response.
The thing is, i already have all the axis gears. Hm 75.+ different fuse and tail. A new wing is around 700 euros. And they are probably going to release a new surf wing. That’s what i hope.
If i go back to uni, it’s an other story, Around 1500 euros for the front + fuse+ tail.
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Great write up! How similar are the low ends of the 140 & 880?
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Anyone know if you can add a helicoil to the one screw fuse to make it work with two screw wings?
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I don’t know the answer regarding adding a second hole, but Uni basically alluded to the fact (without fully endorsing) that you could interchange the 1 and 2 bolt fuses / wings. My understanding is that the 2 bolt fuse connection is looser than the 1 bolt fuse, hence the need for the second screw. They did this to avoid the need for mallets and stuck fuses. Note - I have only used the 2 hole fuse/wings so I can’t confirm the compatibility firsthand.
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Imagine being someone just getting into foiling and having the uni x progression or any of the other good stuff right now as one of your first setups … Totes jelly
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i cant see a reason why this wont work , what i would do is drill right thru the fuselage and then insert a m6 rivnut in , i think i might give it a try tomorrow if i get chance
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I would guess similar, the glide is really good on the 140 for the size. Will try back to back when I can if I haven’t sold the 880, but I think the important thing that makes it not really a comparisons is the 880 is very up and down through turns.
I rode the 899 today and the 140 absolutely has a far easier pump and much better low end, maybe similar looseness on roll into turns but the 899 needs you to keep up speed well into link turns or you drop. I really struggle to “surf” the 899, more just feels like you’re steering it around and near waves at high speed.
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I’m seeing some really nice looking turns and fun looking flying on these things!!! Have the pre orders started shipping?
Curious how the Progression 170 compares to Axis ART 1099 (the goto foil for 90% of my sessions here in Sweden) for downwind, winging and sup foiling in smaller waves? Have you ridden the 1099 enough to be able to compare Matt?
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The 1099 and the PP170 are going to be Apples and Oranges. Not even on the same planet as far as foil wings go.
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Haven’t ever ridden progression wings but they are supposedly even better than Hyper2’s. I used to own a 1099 and now I have lots of sessions on the Hyper2 170, the wings are both great but very different.
-Hyper2 is a fast carving surf wing with moderate stall speed and great turning, moderate pump.
-ART1099 is a slow turning glider wing with moderate stall speed and terrible turning, fantastic pump.
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Thanks for the feedback. Did you ever try the 1099 with the advance fuse? Since switching to advance crazyshort fuse it feels like a completely different foil and turns quite well, no drawbacks found yet except being a little more pitch sensitive but that took 30 minutes get used to. Glide, speed and efficiency is amazing with the 1099.
I guess my question comes down to whether the progression 170 would be an equally good, or better foil to cover sup downwinding, sup surfing and winging compared to ART 1099?
Would glide and speed be comparable?
Would turning / surfing be much better on the 170?
From what Eric has spoken about on the podcast the p170 seems to cover the range I’m looking for perfectly, but would be nice to hear from someone who can compare to what I’m currently riding.
Cheers
@Swellchaser agree mostly with what the others have said. The 1099 is literally worlds apart, super stiff in the roll. You can get it to turn by yawing it but you cannot roll it rail to rail quickly at all, it is as described by someone who rides it a lot, like riding a longboard. This is just physics of a very wide span, ie roll is “bad”, glide is great, pump is fine but finicky in chop due to the very efficient foil section. I’ve ridden the 1099 almost as much as the 880 and on most combinations fuse and tail and agree only worth riding Axis on the advanced fuse and I wish more aftermarket tails but p325 was good. Here is a random clip of the types of conditions mostly riding
To your question, I would imagine DW and surf would be far better on progression if your objective is to push your turns, and maybe absolute efficiency then less so? Wing I have no idea.
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I would say these may be quite a high performing first wing, but an excellent second wing? It is fast and efficient and not going to teach a beginner to pump I wouldn’t think!
I think what turned me over is not that I was ripping huge turns or suddenly able to do foam blasts (I can’t), more that I was able to on the first session at a new spot link lots of waves and do a few nice committed turns, without as many bogged links or cutbacks.
I only had one session, was due an upgrade and wanted either Unifoil or F-one as I didn’t really see enough on the horizon from Axis and so because of the great first experience I went for it. Looking forward to spending more time and then a more comprehensive back to back and hopefully a chance to compare to other brands than Axis.
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I will test the Hyper2 range pretty soon, I will make a review.
Then I should get the Prog140/170 so expect also a review.
I do both surf foil and sup dw so it should be interesting, especially since I used to have Axis art for DW.
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They signed you too Greg? Who haven’t they signed is easier to state at this point. Unifoil making a huge push.
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Actually I will be selling Unifoil in France, so I guess I have signed myself haha
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Wow!! Everyone moving to UNI!!! They look awesome…
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Me…. Waiting by the phone. 
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