Looking to add an Enduro to my quiver to help as I start to play with the parawing try to improve my non-existent pump game.
Currently riding the Silks 850/1050.
I was able to demo the 900 and compare back to back with the 1040 (rode both with the silk 142 tail).
I found the E900 had a little more glide/efficiency and only slightly less turney/responsive.
I don’t think the 900 buys me much over the 1050.
Debating the 1100 but can’t demo and am a bit worried it might feel too locked in, not turney enough being 1100mm wide.
How much different is the 1100 from the 900?
Any feedback on the 1100 vs 1050 or E900?
Fuse/tail suggestions?
I have the 132/142 and HA40 … did not like the 900 on the HA40.
I’ve been riding my E900 and E700 with a chopped HA Silk 38 which definitely helps with carving. I tried the E900 with the normal HA 38 first and it felt too locked in for me. I’ve also heard good things about combining the Enduros with the Silk stabs (non HA) but have not tried that yet.
That said, I recently got a Enduro 1300 and at 68 kg, it’s been an amazing surprise. It handles speed way better than I expected and it pairs well with the Silk HA stabs. I am planning on using the 1300 to learn how to parawing soon. And the pump of the 1300 is bonkers easy. I am a terrible pumper and was able to get a 3 for 1 right away on a 8’2 DW board. I even had success paddling into shoulder high waves (on the shoulder) and shockingly make some cut backs without once feeling like I was going to breach.
I have not tried the 1100 enduro but if you already have the silk 1050 I would honestly consider trying the E1300.
Interesting thoughts on the 1050 vs 900. What mast and fuse were you using? I felt as though the glide on the 900 with standard fuse was dramatically better and the turns on the 1050 were dramatically better. Both on the skinny 75 UHM mast and both with the Mako Glide 120.
I rode with an enduro parawinger the last few days and following him on the 1100 he looked fast but not especially surfy and seemed to blow up more often that I would have expected (standard fuse 85 standard UHM mast). When he switched to the 900 he was dramatically more mobile and looked like he was having the time of his life.
I’ve tripled down on the Silks for parawinging in the Gorge and am getting 1.5 mile link ups on the 650 and 2-3 mile runs on the 850/1050. If it’s good wind bumps they are fully capable. It’s not necessarily about pumping, it’s about positioning IMO. If the swell is flatter, more rolling with low angle faces then the Enduro is undeniably a better choice and that’s when I pull out my Ultra.
I have the Silk 1050, the Enduro 900, and the Enduro 1100. It’s this last one, the 1100, that has aided my progression most. Pumping and wave riding have all benefited. FYI, I am using the short fuse, the Silk 152 tail all on the UHM 80cm mast. I weigh 185lbs and have been foiling less than a year, almost exclusively using foil assist.
@TheFoilKook
Thanks for the feedback. The E1300 seems really big and I’m not sure about going that big without a demo (not an option).
@Wouzel
I was using the UHM 80 mast and standard fuse with the 142 tail in the long position.
Your perception may be more accurate than mine. I rode this foil only for an hour in flat water conditions.
There was a definite difference in the two but at this point I’m unsure it makes sense to own both the 1050 and the E900. Plus I love the turns on the Silks and they are keepers.
@hilotime
How do you compare the E900 with the E1100? Good feedback in favor of the E1100.
I’m 175lbs.
My main motivation is to get proficient at pumping for more than a short distance.
Maybe I simply need to work on technique more with the 1050?
Or would having one of the larger Enduros make this easier … but then would it translate to the Silk when needed?
Maybe having the E900 and spending more time on that would help?
As I said, the E1100 gets my vote when placed against the Silk 1050 and E900. No doubt they, too, shine in particular conditions, but the E1100 will forgive you your mistakes and in so doing teach you to pump and glide. The experience you gain by this, by learning to tap into the energy, will serve you well on these other wings. As someone who started on the Silk 1050, I can tell you with certainty that the E1100 aided my progression.
One other thing that might be worth trying is a different stab with your current silks. I used to pair a Unifoil Progression 14.5 with my Silk 850 and it made it so much easier to pump. I think something about the angle of attack on it just makes it really easy to stay high on your mast.
Maybe something like that paired with your Silk 1050 could be an easier way to work on your pump while maintaining the magic carving feel of the silks!
The first truly high aspect foil I dedicated to was the Ultra 750 and to play off your comment of:
If you haven’t ridden high aspect foils in the past I think there is immense value in having one in your quiver, even if there is overlap like the 900/1050 would be. For me the 750/850 is my overlap (in takeoff but extreme difference in flight). There’s a lot to be learned double dipping on sessions where you start on the 1050 and finish on the 900 or vice versa.
That being said, TheFoilKooks comment about different tails is undoubtedly an option if you just want to practice pump. The Mako Glide tail pumps like crazy and is a small investment. My Ultra 41 tail shows up this week and I’ll be gone on a surf trip but as soon as I get back I’ll test it on the Silks and Ultra and can answer questions about that tail option by the end of the month if you aren’t rushing to buy.
I like small tails. At 86kg I use the 132 on all the Silks and the Mako Glide 120 was great for me while I had it. It helped me unlock a little more pump and glide skillset for the few hundred miles I used it. It has a springy forward projection to the pump which is ridiculously nice.
Hi!
I’m 70kg and have tried all Enduro sizes and all HA stabs.
The 700 and 900 pair better with the HA38
1100 and 1300 work really well with HA40 and the HA43 at my weight would only leave it for the 1300
If you want to have a bigger range without having to give up the 1050 - then the 1100 will have a better low end and still be playful, no locked in feeling on the Enduro range … At my 70Kg perhaps the 1300 felt a little locked in buy hey, it’s huge for my weight, I’m pretty sure in super small conditions you’ll still be able to crack some turns (open and slower, but still drivey and carvy).
I’'m loving the 1100 for learning to parawings, my favorite config is with the HA40 in short fuse with both short or long position depending on what your looking for. The short fuse will keep the setup loose enough to cranck some good turns, I’ve enjoyed some good ones on good short period bumps and small prone waves …
Don’t be afraid of not being able to turn it.
Obviously, if you’re overpowered in wind and bumps/waves, perhaps it’ll reach a point where it’ll feel a bit locked, but at your weight, that’s gonna require some good power.
I got out yesterday again on the 900, this time with the 132 in short position on the standard fuse. The 900 is the only size Enduro I can demo locally.
Then rode the 1050 with the 132.
Conditions were averaging low to mid 20’s (knots).
I rode my 4.5 then downsized to my 3.5.
This again was a flatwater session with somewhat choppy water.
In these conditions the Silk was easier and I’m able to go faster on it.
My turns/jibes/tacks were better on the Silk but that may simply be because I’ve been riding it so much.
Again, I came away thinking that the E900 doesn’t buy me much over the 1050.
I’m thinking that the higher aspect Enduros would fare better in lighter winds and or smoother waters. Our soundside waters can be quite turbulent at times.
Oceanside can be better but has been offshore the last few days, prefer side-off or side.
All that said I picked up the E1100 and short fuse … no wind today, storms.
Seems like the E1100 will be a good compliment to my Silks and help more with my progress.
Wll play with the tails I have but looking forward to more discussion on tail options bor both the Enduros and the Silks.
I am riding E900, 1100, 1300 at 95kg
Literally the only critique I have is that they should have an Enduro 1000
And I would own a Silk if they had a 950.
200 is too big a jump, most other foil lines are jumping in the neighborhood of 100cm2 between sizes