Opinions: No Limitz V2, especially vs new F-One HM 14 Mast?

Greetings Internet,

To answer the main question of this discussion, in my experience, the new No Limitz V2 is on par with the new F-One HM mast. I spent a few days riding them back to back a few weeks ago and I could barely notice any speed/drag difference. I actually think the No Limitz V2 may even be stiffer in real world feels. They both are amazing masts. So let’s put that one to bed.

On the second point, in my experience, the No Limitz mast is miles faster than the Cedrus mast. I’ve done countless hours back to back with these 2 masts and it’s not even close. And that was with the No Limitz V1 - the V2 is even faster and stiffer!

Last but not least, in my experience, a thin mast is always going to be faster than a thicker mast. Once again I’ve down countless hours of testing this by putting the exact same front wings and stabs on different masts using modified connections. Even thinner masts with wider chords, they are always faster than the thicker masts. The thinner mast always feels slipperier and more efficient through the water across multiple brands.

All these CFD analysis and graphs and charts on speed vs drag etc - please just take these with a grain of salt as they usually don’t match a real world scenario - while it might work for air foil simulation with planes, just remember foils are underwater and a computer simulation doesn’t take into account wave/wind swell energy (from multiple directions at once), reverb off rocks, the reef or sandbar or water movement from currents/rips etc - there are so many variables compared to a tank with perfectly still water or a computer running flow analysis with no other variables.

I’ve worked with some of the best foil designers in the world and their CFD analysis definitely sets a baseline and it’s very important in the initial design phase, but in my experience, it is usually different in a real world scenario.

I hope this helps :call_me_hand:t3:

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