Lately I’ve been using the art999/adv crazy short fus/325. I think this is one of the best combo I’ve tried for really small waves, you get the glide of the 999 but it turns good.
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Same… I’m 6’1 220 and use exact same setup
Anyone used the HPS 700 for prone? I’ve just got an 880 and it is great, can dock start it and pumps really nicely, I think prefer it to the 899 for most of the shitty condition days. I think the 830 probably too close, and wondering how the 700 would go. Maybe too fast.
Any recent scuttlebutt about new surf wings mentioned here back in august?
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Important question.
Otherwise we can always just adapt
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Yes, I use the 700hps for prone surfing. Works great on big days, although to be expected it doesn’t pump well. Can still connect 2-3 depending on size and distance between waves.
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I hear rumors of the surf wings coming in spring-summer
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Question on 880 setup. I have 325p and ultrashort advance fuse. I added a shim (leading edge down) slightly smaller than the standard axis. This made the pumping really easy, and feels quite engaged and turns nicely both forehand and backhand.
The one thing I did notice, is trying to make tight wrap turns when linking into a peak, I end up getting accelerating maybe too much, leading to too much lift or pressure in the turn, the feeing is almost like too much G force or pressure in the legs to really hold, and almost can’t hold the foil down. Obviously the speed is desirable, so want to try figure it out.
Does anyone have any thoughts on tuning direction from here? I suppose I could reduce the shim by half. Other thoughts are to shim the mast, though I don’t know how that would help? I don’t think over foiler as the waves pretty small.
Move your mast back towards the tail ever so slightly. 1 CM or so.
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This worked, but I think sacrificed pump a little bit. Give and take. Easier to link into waves, turned better with it slightly back, but harder to pump long distances without stalling or dropping down. Maybe I need to adjust feet more
Yeah, now that you have the turning tuned. Now you just move your feet on the pump. Easier to move feet on the pump and put them back to turn than the other way around in my mind.
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After sufficient time to call it I think the HPS880 is possibly the best balance of the Axis wings for me (+70kg intermediate) for proning mixed UK beachbreak and reforms. I think I’ve tried enough of them to call it my favourite (1300, 1150, 1099, 910, 899, 880, 810, 760, and soon 1050) however I would be very interested in trying the smaller HPS options.
However it has two significant drawbacks:
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primarily the breach characteristic is really poor, definitely worse than the ART and I need to spend some time on other foil brands but I imagine generally pretty poor. Very tricky to recover.
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The other is the roll. It is much too stiff to go from rail to rail, and feels like it needs much more effort to be called “fun”. The ART 899 once moving definitely feels more lively, but that might just be the speed.
I really hope Axis does indeed release something soon that is properly surf oriented or lose out to Progression, Kujira, F-One, Armstrong MA launches, as I am eyeing what is out there for sure.
(I also tried the BSC810 and while it goes really well once on waves, great feeling of predictable turning. If I was only riding waves and not worried about pump I think it would be great, however the pump seems a bit weird, similar in feeling to the PNG910 but I struggled to get it to flow in a useful distance covering pump. Strange and difficult to describe.)
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Hey guys, I have a 880hps which Iv been proning with and love, just bought a 90L wing ding board and 5 m wing to learn the noble art of wing foiling… 70kg etc
I also have an advanced fusalage (crazy short) .
I don’t really want to spend extra money on new front wing/fusalage… yet
couple of questions
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I have heard the advanced fusalage isn’t ideal for winging… does anyone know why? Will it be a major issue in learning progression or just performance
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would positive shimming my 350 progressive tail wing theoretically give me more lift, while I for a 980/1050 to hopefully pop up on the local second hand market.
Hope you’ve been scoring. yew!
There is nothing wrong with the advanced fuses for winging, I liked them so much I sold my standard fuses. I personally didn’t find any negatives, they just turn better. I think you can just get out there with your kit just how it is. Getting up winging in lighter wing is mostly about technique and fitness. I can be up and riding a small foil and 5m in conditions the older guys are on there 8m and huge foil because I can pump the wheels off of it.
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I agree, hopfully Axis will make for 2023 a very good surf wing, something that turn like hps but glide and the the speed of an art.
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I actually don’t think the HPS wings turns very well. I surfed the hps930 for 3-4 prone sessions. It pumps great, lots of speed, but zero role IMO. I have the Takuma 1210 and found the HPS rather frustrating compared to how user friendly the 1210 is. Ever time it turned the HPS halfway hard, I would dump all the lift. Definitely could of been user error too 
I think it is hard to compare foil and brands as it takes some time to get used to it, but I agree, Takuma Kujira are one the best surf foil wing so it is hard to beat.
Might be worth using a very forgiving foil for the first few sessions, I had a lesson and they gave me a 90L board and an older foil with a large chord and the setup was incredible how easy and stable it was after never having ridden anything medium or low aspect, no issue with breaching, linear and constant lift, impossible to stall. With the help of a boat and a mic’d coach it was trivial really.
The massive boards make the foil much less responsive than you’ll be used to, so it will be harder to do the fine control that you need to keep HPS easily cruising, combined with poor breach, and then learning switch. It will be possible just a bit of a grind I think. I can highly recommend a few sessions on something easy just to take the foil out of the equation.
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Axis range is very good for capabilities, ie fast/slow/glide/turn, but my guess and it seems like the case that surf foil direction is moving away from engineering and more towards an “art form” like surfboard shaping, and I think will get a bit harder to make improvements.
By the sounds of it, Progression and Kujira, which are more of a je ne sais quoi (I think that is the best way to describe it?) where you cannot break down the specific components as easily, it is more of a feeling, and takes a much higher level of talent, but both from designer and the team rider giving the feedback in order to get something that achieves intention.
I think the HPS is fine but I really don’t feel confident pushing it hard in turns at all, I am going to put some effort into trying Progression and Kujira so that I have a baseline to compare whatever comes next 
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Yeh I regret selling my old 920 thinking it was redundant… I think we need a foil subscription service where you can rent equipment to try and progress until you find what’s right for you to buy!
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